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Old 08-28-2007, 11:16 AM   #31
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Calzaghe's a bit like Hatton but doesn't spout on about his humility so much like Ricky does.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:19 AM   #32
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Calzaghe's a bit like Hatton but doesn't spout on about his humility so much like Ricky does.
Yes, he seems like a guy with his head screwed on just right.

I have almost always liked him as a boxer, but I like him now also on a personal level.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:26 AM   #33
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It is a bit far totally dropping the "Viking Warrior" thing.

He could have compromised with something like the "Viking Settler".
. Good one. After 3rd of November the english will call him Limey Mike.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:28 AM   #34
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Joe's technically English though being born In London. Mikkel's only a halfling because his mums English.

Remember when Lacy wore an England shirt and pretended he had English ancestors? He called them something like Benjemin Disraili Lacy or some crap like that.

Arran said he was going to root for Lacy too at the time because Lacy wore an England shirt.

Calzaghe's dragon slap will cut through Kessler's Lion punch.
Yeah, where you are born is the most important. Kessler is danish. The Danes taught him everything he knows, and thats why he is so good.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:33 AM   #35
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Yeah, where you are born is the most important. Kessler is danish. The Danes taught him everything he knows, and thats why he is so good.
Sharing genes with someone is a better reason for supporting them than rooting for them based on the fluke location where they were born. Hence you want to see an English human win a fight with a Danish animal, like say a dog.

Another good reason for supporting a boxer is if they are facing a traitor like Mike.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:38 AM   #36
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Sharing genes with someone is a better reason for supporting them than rooting for them based on the fluke location where they were born. Hence you want to see an English human win a fight with a Danish animal, like say a dog.

Another good reason for supporting a boxer is if they are facing a traitor like Mike.
Gene pools are the wrong way to go about it. A person could derive from 10s of nations down the ancestry. If you feel danish, born danish, then you are danish. If he feels more like a limey then peace with him, he has a english mother so its never treason nor would I care. I like Kessler because he is talented, a likeable person and knows the danish language pretty well.

Lets not argue about the english vs the danes. Its a battle you can't win.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:43 AM   #37
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In what context? I know he isn't extravagant, but surely he surrounds himself with objects of quality. I would be very surprised if he doesn't have one italian car of some sort, or is somewhat italian in what he does; expensive watches, expensive designer clothes, etc etc. I wouldn't hold it against him, since he doesn't act like a PBF or Paris Hilton in the spending department
Everyone who gains a measure of wealth is going to have a nice home, some nice vehicles and other luxury items, but that's about where it ends for Calzaghe. He doesn't own a Ferrari to my best knowledge, I believe he drives a Jag Vanden Plas series and even when he's about, he's never wearing expensive designer clothes(not that there is anything wrong with that).

I have nothing against spending well earned wealth on nice things like you, I have plenty against parasitic materialism, to the point where it's a large part of the meaningless existence.

Joe still trains in that old gym, he'll hang out with the kids around town and he's generally just a modest Welshman who happens to be a phenominal boxer.

He deserves a lot of respect, it is not his fault that the best names avoided the prospect of fighting him, namely Ottke/Beyer on the Euro circuit and then the top named yanks. Look at how he jumped to face Kessler when they could not convince Taylor for 6 million dollar fight.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:52 AM   #38
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Everyone who gains a measure of wealth is going to have a nice home, some nice vehicles and other luxury items, but that's about where it ends for Calzaghe. He doesn't own a Ferrari to my best knowledge, I believe he drives a Jag Vanden Plas series and even when he's about, he's never wearing expensive designer clothes(not that there is anything wrong with that).

I have nothing against spending well earned wealth on nice things like you, I have plenty against parasitic materialism, to the point where it's a large part of the meaningless existence.

Joe still trains in that old gym, he'll hang out with the kids around town and he's generally just a modest Welshman who happens to be a phenominal boxer.

He deserves a lot of respect, it is not his fault that the best names avoided the prospect of fighting him, namely Ottke/Beyer on the Euro circuit and then the top named yanks. Look at how he jumped to face Kessler when they could not convince Taylor for 6 million dollar fight.
I feel like you misinterpreted my Ferrari statement. It was never a claim to say that Calzaghe wanna display his wealth.

I would likewise surround myself with things I like, if I could afford it, but I would never buy stuff just to gain social acceptance. Nor have I ever felt that JC was such a figure.

Nonetheless, thank you for giving me more insight into the being Calzaghe. He appears more and more to me as a good bloke. Nor do think that JC had anything to do with the match with Kessler has been this delayed. The time is right, the time is now. The Taylor thing is nothing I would blame JC nor FW. Taylor as we know is great reward vs risk.

But I do blame him for not trying to push FW further to the big fights and for failing to compromise.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:09 PM   #39
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some scientist once made some genetic tracing of english ancestry and discovered that the english were higly filled with viking blood. So Kess is more english than a welsh italian.....HAHA.....

He will carry one or 2 goes no matter what. He says he is exited that he is fighting kess.
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Calzaghe-Manfredo II perhaps?
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