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Old 08-28-2007, 02:16 PM   #16
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1. Mayweather
2. Pac
3. JMM
4. Hopkins
5. Vazquez
6. Wright
7. Marquez
8. Calzaghe
9. Hatton
10. Cotto


a couple things:

1. When was the last time Wright won a fight? Soliman?

2. Should Cotto be in there despite never winning a championship? (championship, not titles)
JMM has never won a real championship either, only belts.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:17 PM   #17
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He was never dropped by Jaca. JMM being over Hopkins is okay in my book as long as it deals with boxing.

If it were the top ten P4P for holding, headbutting, using your elbows, and boring the fans to sleep with your style of fighting than ol' Hopkins is definitely in the top three. Although he is ranked number one P4P for the boxer with the most gaps between his teeth.
That's just hating at its finest degree.

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Old 08-28-2007, 02:21 PM   #18
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[quote=ThunderPower]He was never dropped by Jaca.[quote]

JMM had his gloves on the canvas on the 7th(? or was it 8th?) and that's tantamount to a KD.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:52 PM   #19
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2. Should Cotto be in there despite never winning a championship? (championship, not titles)
I got no problem with Cotto being rated over Calderon. I got a question for you though. In your opinion why do Calderon's 2 WBO titles have more weight than Cotto's titles. as far as I am concerned they are not any different. his mimimum weight title was vacant when he won it so it's not like he beat the man who beat the man (not to mention he won it against a guy that was 18-5-1 and it's the most meaningless of all the titles). His light flyweight title is also very disputable as just like with the minimum wieght title there are still 3 other guys that claim to be champs of his division all with belts that historically have been held at a higher regard than his.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:53 PM   #20
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JMM has never won a real championship either, only belts.
true...and he really loves those belts
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:05 PM   #21
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See whats funny is that nobody could figure out how to beat Winky, but Bernard did. Now you can criticize the way that he did it, but the fact remains that he beat Winky in a competitive but clear decision. Everyone with a brain knew that this wasnt going to be an exciting affair going into the bout, so to criticize it now is meaningless.
Exactly. People act like Bernard should have found a way to box circles around Wright, knocking him down twice for the crowd... as if it is easy to take him out.

Before Hopkins beat him, people would have put Wright at least even with damn near anyone around his weight.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:09 PM   #22
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Thats what I'm saying. Hopkins has an uncanny ability to make you fight his fight, and I'm not sure that Dawson could avoid it.

That and I think that Hopkins might put him to sleep with his right hand.

I have a weird feeling about Hopkins-Dawson.
That, and the fact that Hopkins feeds on southpaws.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:11 PM   #23
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Maybe Im crazy, but I still have Calderon on the outside of the top ten looking in.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:17 PM   #24
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boxrecs pfp list

1 Bernard Hopkins light heavyweight
2 Floyd Mayweather Jr light middleweight
3 Israel Vazquez super bantamweight
4 Ricky Hatton light welterweight
5 Chris John featherweight
6 Jermain Taylor middleweight
7 Joe Calzaghe super middleweight
8 Cristian Mijares super flyweight
9 Shane Mosley welterweight
10 Miguel Angel Cotto welterweight
What a ****ed up list.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:18 PM   #25
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Yeah and they make a big deal out of Wright backing him up but coming forward aint really the way to fight Winky because if you back up you can find the angles you need to break his turtle defense.
Yep, Bernard had the right plan and it worked. Surprise surprise? Hopkins is a master at finding the right plan.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:21 PM   #26
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What a ****ed up list.
I think that we all know better than to pay attention to boxrec's list.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:27 PM   #27
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I think that we all know better than to pay attention to boxrec's list.
Agreed.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:32 PM   #28
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JMM and vazquez are rated way too high, bernard should be number 2, or at least 3 behind pac
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:43 PM   #29
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What a joke.

Hopkins should be lower top 10, JMM 5-7 and Calderon deserves Cotto's spot. Wright and Rafa need to be edged out of it.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:34 AM   #30
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Marquez is way to high on the list.
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