Evander Holyfield vs. Max Baer

Russell · 09-05-2007, 02:14 PM

Hmm?

Russell · 09-05-2007, 02:33 PM

I can't see Evander stopping Max, honestly.

If he couldn't stop Bowe after everything he threw at him, how would he stop Max?

Guy quit more than anything vs. Louis. He basically took a knee after Louis gave him a beating that easily proved he had an ATG chin.

Zakman · 09-05-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

I can't see Evander stopping Max, honestly.

If he couldn't stop Bowe after everything he threw at him, how would he stop Max?

Guy quit more than anything vs. Louis. He basically took a knee after Louis gave him a beating that easily proved he had an ATG chin.

Exactly. Baer really deserves to be up there with guys like Chuvalo and McCall in all-time chin ratings. The Louis fight was the only time he was counted out, and as you note, he basically quit. Baer was never knocked unconscious in 84 fights.

Holyfield is a great fighter, and a far more accomplished one that Baer - but while he probably wins a rather wide decision, it is extremely unlikely that he stops a prime Baer.

Russell · 09-05-2007, 05:09 PM

I don't know if it was possible to knock out Baer, the big goofy motherfucker.

His brother had a granite chin too.

janitor · 09-05-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

I don't know if it was possible to knock out Baer, the big goofy motherfucker.

Baer was not sensible enough to be knocked out. It is a matter of physiology.

Ted Spoon · 09-05-2007, 07:44 PM

Actually, Evander is a man who has the capabilities to stop Mad-cap Maxie.

If there is one thing Bear did not like it was being in a hard fight.

Evander stopped you through suffocating tactics. He was not an explosive combination puncher, but he had crisp combinations and they came all the time. He did not blow himself up like Tyson did early on, but rather deployed his bombs steadily, which could grind down the hardest barriers over the right amount of rounds.

Bear is the great 'always present danger' while on his feet, but Holyfield would take the fight too him, and then out of him in a foul-laden late TKO or unanimous decision.

Street Lethal · 09-05-2007, 08:05 PM

Holyfield by easy decision unless the referee stops it due to the obvious mismatch this fight represents. Holyfield would win every round.

McGrain · 09-05-2007, 08:08 PM

Hollyfield is the right man for Baer. He recovers quickly from the big shot and understands survival in the meantime. Meanwhile he can maul and box his way to a UD.

The only way he loses, for me, is if he gets the plan wrong and brawls.

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09-05-2007, 02:33 PM	#2
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Evander Holyfield vs. Max Baer I can't see Evander stopping Max, honestly. If he couldn't stop Bowe after everything he threw at him, how would he stop Max? Guy quit more than anything vs. Louis. He basically took a knee after Louis gave him a beating that easily proved he had an ATG chin.
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09-05-2007, 05:09 PM	#4
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Evander Holyfield vs. Max Baer I don't know if it was possible to knock out Baer, the big goofy motherfucker. His brother had a granite chin too.
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09-05-2007, 07:44 PM	#6
Ted Spoon Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 785 vCash: 1000	Re: Evander Holyfield vs. Max Baer Actually, Evander is a man who has the capabilities to stop Mad-cap Maxie. If there is one thing Bear did not like it was being in a hard fight. Evander stopped you through suffocating tactics. He was not an explosive combination puncher, but he had crisp combinations and they came all the time. He did not blow himself up like Tyson did early on, but rather deployed his bombs steadily, which could grind down the hardest barriers over the right amount of rounds. Bear is the great 'always present danger' while on his feet, but Holyfield would take the fight too him, and then out of him in a foul-laden late TKO or unanimous decision.
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09-05-2007, 08:05 PM	#7
Street Lethal Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 494 vCash: 1000	Re: Evander Holyfield vs. Max Baer Holyfield by easy decision unless the referee stops it due to the obvious mismatch this fight represents. Holyfield would win every round.
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09-05-2007, 08:08 PM	#8
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,259 vCash: 1000	Re: Evander Holyfield vs. Max Baer Hollyfield is the right man for Baer. He recovers quickly from the big shot and understands survival in the meantime. Meanwhile he can maul and box his way to a UD. The only way he loses, for me, is if he gets the plan wrong and brawls.
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