Fighters losing their chins...

[C. M. Clay II]

I think After Tyson lost to Lewis you saw a dramatic change in chin. Just look at the Danny Williams fight.

[Robot16]

Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

Mustafa Hamsho is the perfect example here. At one time he was rated the greatest chin in boxing, let alone 160, even above the granite of Hagler. Marvin belted the absolute crap out of the guy for 11 rounds before the first fight was stopped on cuts. In the rematch Marvin put him away quite easily in 3 rounds and his chin just wasn't the same. It's fair to assume the thrashing Hagler put on him in the initial encounter definitely did some damage.

Yeh i have read in interviews where Hamsho was saying that he was letting Marvin hit him with his best shots to show that he can take it all, in the 1st fight.
Wasnt the 2nd fight supposed to be full of dirty tactics by both?
Also did anyone else take Hamsho out easy besides hagler?
Cos i thought Hamsho only lost to one other person besides hagler when he was in that stage of his career?

[Robot16]

Originally Posted by My dinner with Conteh

I second this. Worst thing Jeff did was get involved with American boxing (specifically King). The screw job vs Nelson drained the life out of him.


ps. Where did Lloyd Honeghan's chin go?

Hey do you think that Jeff was affected mentally by the first fight.
He gave a spirited effort then gets a draw.
Do you think that draw took abit from his mental side, hunger, etc away from him?

[Arminius]

Let's say Joe Frazier who after taking a beating could not hold up to George Foreman's blows.

And I will add the all time great Roberto Duran who nearly beat an in prime Hagler at 4 times his natural fighting weight. He took tremendous blows in that fight. Then could not stand up to the bombs Hearns threw at him. Really an iron clad jaw with a momentary lapse even despite his age at the time.