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Old 05-08-2009, 08:42 AM   #61
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Offensively yes, defensively Mayweather is several levels above JMM.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:43 AM   #62
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No way Mayweather is the better boxer their.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:44 AM   #63
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I think Marquez is the better boxer and counter-puncher. But the problem with Mayweather is too fast. And if he runs, then the fight becomes boring, said Pacquiao.


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Originally posted by fearno1 of Pacland.
I see Arum is already trying to prevent a Pac-FMJ fight by throwing insults like 30% in the hope that Floyd will tell him to **** off & his main meal ticket can keep winning & making him (more) rich.

Fat bastard.

I hope Im wrong but I dont like the sound of Manny`s comments concerning Floyd, he seems to be using the old `he`s boring` routine which if said enough can become an excuse/reason not to fight Floyd.

Floyd should take anything they offer then watch Arum`s face go white with fear & come up with some other lot of bullshit....
I ****in hate this side of boxing, it really angers me.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:48 AM   #64
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The 135 version of JMM would beat the 135 PBF version IMO.
**** off

Honestly, some of you cunts are really trying my patience today with your stupidity.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:49 AM   #65
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I see Arum is already trying to prevent a Pac-FMJ fight by throwing insults like 30% in the hope that Floyd will tell him to **** off & his main meal ticket can keep winning & making him (more) rich.

Fat bastard.

I hope Im wrong but I dont like the sound of Manny`s comments concerning Floyd, he seems to be using the old `he`s boring` routine which if said enough can become an excuse/reason not to fight Floyd.

Floyd should take anything they offer then watch Arum`s face go white with fear & come up with some other lot of bullshit....
I ****in hate this side of boxing, it really angers me.
you're on crack if you think Arum is scared to put Pac in against Maywaether. Pac is on the verge of retirement anyways so you can bet your ass Arum is looking to cash out on the most money possible. Only the Mayweather nuthuggers or the Pacquiao haters think Pac is looking for excuses not to fight Floyd. Get real. The man has taken on every challenge throughout his career.

Lets just hope Floyd doesn't price himself out and realises that the big end of the stick is in Pacquiao's hands, not his.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:51 AM   #66
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**** off

Honestly, some of you cunts are really trying my patience today with your stupidity.
shit i was just gonna say the same thing about you.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:55 AM   #67
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I posted this yesterday looking back at it i think maybe the author Abac Cordero is instigating, pac does not talk in that manner at all.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:56 AM   #68
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I see Arum is already trying to prevent a Pac-FMJ fight by throwing insults like 30% in the hope that Floyd will tell him to **** off & his main meal ticket can keep winning & making him (more) rich.

Fat bastard.

I hope Im wrong but I dont like the sound of Manny`s comments concerning Floyd, he seems to be using the old `he`s boring` routine which if said enough can become an excuse/reason not to fight Floyd.

Floyd should take anything they offer then watch Arum`s face go white with fear & come up with some other lot of bullshit....
I ****in hate this side of boxing, it really angers me.
It will be Floyd who will be seen by everyone ducking if he didn't take Pac's term.
If your gonna blame someone for Pac wanting his terms, Blame Floyd himself, He retired and unretired. He has no right atm to bargain as he isn't the top anymore.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:07 AM   #69
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I see Arum is already trying to prevent a Pac-FMJ fight by throwing insults like 30% in the hope that Floyd will tell him to **** off & his main meal ticket can keep winning & making him (more) rich.

Fat bastard.

I hope Im wrong but I dont like the sound of Manny`s comments concerning Floyd, he seems to be using the old `he`s boring` routine which if said enough can become an excuse/reason not to fight Floyd.

Floyd should take anything they offer then watch Arum`s face go white with fear & come up with some other lot of bullshit....
I ****in hate this side of boxing, it really angers me.
30-35% for floyd is not exactly that far-fetched. just compare their US PPV buys with hatton as their common opponent. in a good economy, floyd-hatton made 850K US PPV buys. all indications point to pac-hatton posting 1.6M+ US PPV buys despite a bad economy. that tells us that pac is now a bigger PPV draw in the US than floyd. so, 65-35 or 60-40 for pac is very feasible. there is certainly no way that floyd can ask for an equal, much less a bigger share of the pie in the event of a pac-floyd fight.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:13 AM   #70
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Pac's opinion is based solely on his real fights with marquez and watching vids of mayweather(although i doubt it he watched a lot of floyd's vid).

When he's on the ring with floyd im pretty sure he would change that opinion of his. Floyd is just the better boxer in any weight class
It could be, but from a completely non bias POV I do think JMM really technically is a better counterpuncher, whereas Floyd perhaps has better timing, reflexes, defense, speed & athleticism.

JMM seems to be able to slip punches whilst attacking, a lot harder to do than slipping punches defending. On top of that he counter sin combinations, I cant think of any fighter who countered off in combo as well as JMM did, perhaps MAB. JMM will counter with a combo in the middle of his opponents combo. Look at how he interrupts Pac's combinations and come back with his own, in aslo-mo it really looks like a masterpiece and gives a perspective on why Pac finds him so difficult.
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Floyd seems to counterpunch with potshots and when he does throw his combo's its not quite as fluid. Still an amazing boxer no doubt.
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:35 AM   #71
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Jmm is the better counter puncher.
Floyd is faster and stronger and better defensive fighter.
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Old 05-08-2009, 10:49 AM   #72
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In another thread, Roach and Arum also agree that Mayweather is boring because he runs too much.
They both want the Pac express to continue, Mayweathers skills are a massive threat to that, they are not fooling anyone (me)
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:00 AM   #73
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30-35% for floyd is not exactly that far-fetched. just compare their US PPV buys with hatton as their common opponent. in a good economy, floyd-hatton made 850K US PPV buys. all indications point to pac-hatton posting 1.6M+ US PPV buys despite a bad economy. that tells us that pac is now a bigger PPV draw in the US than floyd. so, 65-35 or 60-40 for pac is very feasible. there is certainly no way that floyd can ask for an equal, much less a bigger share of the pie in the event of a pac-floyd fight.
I get what your saying but I dont agree with that side of boxing... period.

Mayweather & Pacquiao have more than proved themselves, the top 2 fighters of their generation, with all the money both men have, why not make it 50/50 ?
The 70/30 thing is purely just a dig at Mayweather as if to say `Pac is bigger than you`.... no proven elite fighter likes to accept that BS.

50/50 or winner gets 60 or 70 should be the way forward IMO.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:07 AM   #74
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Mayweather is technically superior to Marquez, by a fair amount.
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Old 05-08-2009, 11:23 AM   #75
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All i got to say is i can't wait for Marquez vs Pacquiao III after Marquez beats Mayweather.
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