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Old 09-11-2007, 04:05 PM   #1
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How would you advise Sullivan in his fight against Corbett?

Of course, one would like to strongly influence Sullivan in his preparation. However, I'm going to specify his preparation as being the same as it actually was. So you're dealing with Sullivan in exactly the same condition as he actually showed up in for the defense against Corbett.

I'd advise him to take ring center and not budge. Use his acting skill to look disdainfully/pityingly at Corbett, and intermittenly bellow a few disparaging remarks about Corbett's willingness to fight. Maybe taunt "Jim, at least you fought a few rounds with Jackson before the two of you quit!".
Maybe Corbett wouldn't care. However, there's just a chance The Gentleman might be anxious that his championship challenge not result in a No Contest. If Corbett comes into Sullivan it might still be a fight.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:09 PM   #2
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How would you advise Sullivan in his fight against Corbett?

Of course, one would like to strongly influence Sullivan in his preparation. However, I'm going to specify his preparation as being the same as it actually was. So you're dealing with Sullivan in exactly the same condition as he actually showed up in for the defense against Corbett.

I'd advise him to take ring center and not budge. Use his acting skill to look disdainfully/pityingly at Corbett, and intermittenly bellow a few disparaging remarks about Corbett's willingness to fight. Maybe taunt "Jim, at least you fought a few rounds with Jackson before the two of you quit!".
Maybe Corbett wouldn't care. However, there's just a chance The Gentleman might be anxious that his championship challenge not result in a No Contest. If Corbett comes into Sullivan it might still be a fight.
Don't show up 'cause you'll lose anyway?
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:43 PM   #3
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Don't show up 'cause you'll lose anyway?
This would also be my advice.

You can only stave off the inevitable for so long.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:47 PM   #4
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This would also be my advice.

You can only stave off the inevitable for so long.
I agree.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:02 PM   #5
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Default Re: How would you advise Sullivan in his fight against Corbett?

Too late for advice for old John L. I'm afraid. I wonder what would have happened prime vs. prime!
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:52 PM   #6
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Prime v Prime would be fascinating...

The smartest thing Corbett did v Sullivan was refusing to let him rest. Every time Sullivan would try to lower his arms, take a step out, shake himself of, whateve, Corbett was on him like a snake, masterful stuff. I'm afraid this is a fight Sullivan couldn't win regardless of result.

I think the only thing you could do is make him understand it's impossible to win this after 5. If you haven't stopped him by the end of 5 we can go home.
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:09 PM   #7
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1 ) Get in shape

2 ) Focus on body and arm shots. Hitting Corbett in the head was very hard.

3 ) Use your strength and weigh to your advantage in the clinches.

4 ) Try to catch Corbett in the corners or on the ropes.

5 ) When Corbett jabs, throw a punch back as soon as possible.

6 ) Feint high, then go lower. Sullivan had some good hand feints.
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Old 09-11-2007, 09:20 PM   #8
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Hold the fight under London Prize Ring Rules.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:10 PM   #9
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Go for the solar plexus.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:18 PM   #10
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Default Re: How would you advise Sullivan in his fight against Corbett?

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How would you advise Sullivan in his fight against Corbett?

Of course, one would like to strongly influence Sullivan in his preparation. However, I'm going to specify his preparation as being the same as it actually was. So you're dealing with Sullivan in exactly the same condition as he actually showed up in for the defense against Corbett.

I'd advise him to take ring center and not budge. Use his acting skill to look disdainfully/pityingly at Corbett, and intermittenly bellow a few disparaging remarks about Corbett's willingness to fight. Maybe taunt "Jim, at least you fought a few rounds with Jackson before the two of you quit!".
Maybe Corbett wouldn't care. However, there's just a chance The Gentleman might be anxious that his championship challenge not result in a No Contest. If Corbett comes into Sullivan it might still be a fight.
Fight him in1889 instead of 1892, stay off the booze and come in at 198 not 212.
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:19 AM   #11
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Default Re: How would you advise Sullivan in his fight against Corbett?

Don't rush. Either stand in the center of the ring, or calmly but persistently move in on him, but with relaxation, not with big rushing bursts, becuase that's what Jim wants - for you to wear yourself out trying to hit him. Be conservative with your output and walk him down and mostly only throw for the body. That's how he should have fought. Of course, the advice to fight him years earlier, to stay more active from 89-92, to not drink so much, to get in shape a lot sooner, are all the best advice.
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:26 PM   #12
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"Hit him in the slats"


Seriously though, interesting thread and some good advice.
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