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Old 07-11-2009, 08:53 PM   #556
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Gorbachev, the ex premier of the USSR, said that maybe a combination of both systems would be best. Over the past eight years in this country we've seen the largest split in the classes. More cash has been siphoned up to the top few % of wealthiest Americans through legal financial coups (think stock manipulation), and government and corporate interests have in a sense become one. When you finance the careers of congressmen and senators you can bet they will pass laws (or not pass laws) that are most beneficial to your interests. "Unbridled Capitalism" in my opinion has been a disaster for this country.
i think Britain aftter the first world war was almost perfect in terms of a balance, just a shame we was bankrupt.

The socail reforms were brilliant but there wasnt too many of them and there was still some elements of Laizzes Faire in th government

Churchill and Lyod George were clever lads
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Old 07-11-2009, 08:58 PM   #558
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I do think a healthy balance is the only thing that makes sense. The argument goes, the one that Ronald Regan advanced (The Trickle Down Theory), says that if you take care of the people at the top, make sure that corporations stay fat and healthy, then the benefits (hiring, prosperity, benefits, etc) will "trickle down" to the common man. But again, imo that hasn't turned out to be the case, 'cause guess what, instead of sharing the wealth they kept it for themselves. The only thing that's been trickling down to the middle class these days is misery.
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I do think a healthy balance is the only thing that makes sense. The argument goes, the one that Ronald Regan advanced (The Trickle Down Theory), says that if you take care of the people at the top, make sure that corporations stay fat and healthy, then the benefits (hiring, prosperity, benefits, etc) will "trickle down" to the common man. But again, imo that hasn't turned out to be the case, 'cause guess what, instead of sharing the wealth they kept it for themselves. The only thing that's been trickling down to the middle class these days is misery.
yeh you dont want too much help or people get lazy and you dont want not enough help as some hard workers get sod all

its pretty simple really
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yeh you dont want too much help or people get lazy and you dont want not enough help as some hard workers get sod all

its pretty simple really
Simple, but tricky, because the greed factor will invariably set in. It's in all of us, right? Just think when you go to buy clothes or a car, the stuff that costs the most is usually the stuff you want, because usually anyway, it's the best stuff, the best built, the most stylish, etc. Still, I do think there's enough of all stuff to go around. How it is justifiable that some have so much it turns their kids into unmotivated derelicts and some have so little their kids have little to no opportunity for a good life is I think, criminal.
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Simple, but tricky, because the greed factor will invariably set in. It's in all of us, right? Just think when you go to buy clothes or a car, the stuff that costs the most is usually the stuff you want, because usually anyway, it's the best stuff, the best built, the most stylish, etc. Still, I do think there's enough of all stuff to go around. How it is justifiable that some have so much it turns their kids into unmotivated derelicts and some have so little their kids have little to no opportunity for a good life is I think, criminal.
yeh its ****ed up heres a quote from Alexis Arguello that i think is relevant here

'Material things are not important, we are important, why cant people see that?'

i think exactly the same i dont care for stuff sue it would be good wearing Armanidriving a bently but would i really want it. I would much rather help somebody who NEEDS it instead of what i WANT.
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yeh its ****ed up heres a quote from Alexis Arguello that i think is relevant here

'Material things are not important, we are important, why cant people see that?'

i think exactly the same i dont care for stuff sue it would be good wearing Armanidriving a bently but would i really want it. I would much rather help somebody who NEEDS it instead of what i WANT.
It's really a good take you have on it. But I will tell you that the one time $$$ is really important is when you don't have it. Money can't make you happy, I agree, but when you don't have it, it sure as **** will make you miserable. I have a quote from a long dead American comic, Joe E. Lewis, who had many ups and downs in his career... "I've been rich and I've been poor... Rich is better."
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It's really a good take you have on it. But I will tell you that the one time $$$ is really important is when you don't have it. Money can't make you happy, I agree, but when you don't have it, it sure as **** will make you miserable. I have a quote from a long dead American comic, Joe E. Lewis, who had many ups and downs in his career... "I've been rich and I've been poor... Rich is better."
yes definitly you need some money, but if you have the money to spare you can help people thats more satisfying than buying the new armani jacket.

The more you think about Socialism seems to be the answer but then you get lazy cunts who dont deserve it
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yes definitly you need some money, but if you have the money to spare you can help people thats more satisfying than buying the new armani jacket.

The more you think about Socialism seems to be the answer but then you get lazy cunts who dont deserve it

Somewhere in between seems to be the only answer we're left with. Just read your tribute to Gatti. Very impressive for anybody, let alone a 15 yr. old. You sure you want to be a fighter?
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Somewhere in between seems to be the only answer we're left with. Just read your tribute to Gatti. Very impressive for anybody, let alone a 15 yr. old. You sure you want to be a fighter?
it aint mine, i cant write that good.

of course i want to be a fighter its all i do, its my dream and you gotta grasp that dream

heres some i wrote

Gatti gave his all in boxing, something many fans expects these days but Gatti gave it everything and more. The purists will say he wasnt that great, the casual fanbs will think of him as just some exciting boxer but the proper fans will think of him as a courageous warrior that not many men have built in them

I want to say this Gatti was mixed up in unsavoury things like drugs and wife beating, but every person who has ever met him as testified to how nice a guy he was and how decent a man he was. Gatti was a good man misguided. May god judge him on this and let him Rest In Peace
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it aint mine, i cant write that good.

of course i want to be a fighter its all i do, its my dream and you gotta grasp that dream

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Gatti gave his all in boxing, something many fans expects these days but Gatti gave it everything and more. The purists will say he wasnt that great, the casual fanbs will think of him as just some exciting boxer but the proper fans will think of him as a courageous warrior that not many men have built in them

I want to say this Gatti was mixed up in unsavoury things like drugs and wife beating, but every person who has ever met him as testified to how nice a guy he was and how decent a man he was. Gatti was a good man misguided. May god judge him on this and let him Rest In Peace
Not a thing wrong with that one, either. You have a good head on your shoulders. So, how many fights have you had? What's your style? It's a tough racket, isn't it?
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Not a thing wrong with that one, either. You have a good head on your shoulders. So, how many fights have you had? What's your style? It's a tough racket, isn't it?
thanks mate,

i have had 9 fights (amatuer) i only won 2 (1 KO but i aint a hard hitter) I have lacked confidence though and i got to the final of the scottish final (the guy who beat me got to the british final so im not far off the level) Im alot better now.

My style is impetetuos, my defence is impregnable haha

no im a mover use angles mainly a counter puncher work the body alot now with a high workrate.

JG says i have some Pep about me the way i move heres a bideo of me

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I enjoyed that! I like the way you move, I like that style, "To hit and not get hit," is what Ali said, right? Try to make your jab and right cross count for a little more and keep your awareness keen so you don't take too many shots, and against a guy like this, a guy who's always comin', use his momentum against him, good for you.
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tahts what ive worked on my powers improved alot im rocking adults in the gym especially with body shots my left hook to the liver is alright.

Hit without being hit is what i try to do, but ill easy go to war of i have too. My movement ha s always been good since i learnt to box, my trainer hates it says i do afew things wrong with my feet but it works
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tahts what ive worked on my powers improved alot im rocking adults in the gym especially with body shots my left hook to the liver is alright.

Hit without being hit is what i try to do, but ill easy go to war of i have too. My movement ha s always been good since i learnt to box, my trainer hates it says i do afew things wrong with my feet but it works
Yeah, I'd have to watch it again, but it's important when you have an angle on somebody to use it. When you step into an angle, when you can hit him, but he can't hit you for that moment, make sure you fire... then change up the angle again. This guy was good, though he was mostly comin' straight at you. He had you outgunned, but I think you did a pretty good job of hanging in. I have no doubt you're willing to go to war, but save that for later if you can. Make his head spin for a while and frustrate the hell out of him, then he's more vulnerable. But I like your style!
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