Options for Jermain Taylor after his official starching? - Page 4

pecks · 09-17-2007, 02:53 AM

I think Taylor wins this one. Amsterdam underrates him a fair bit.

jsimps · 09-17-2007, 08:43 AM

Keep in mind... Before B-Hop was dethroned, JT's resume was comparable to Pavlik's. Pavlik is following the path of a promoter. You can't beat the best until you fought them.

tpuz · 09-17-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Amsterdam

Who's team calling for Calzaghe? Taylor's?

They turned down a 6 million dollar offer for a fight at 168 in Vegas on two occassions. DiBella isn't that stupid, even if he managed to beat Pavlik, he'd never be in the ring against Calzaghe.

This is the absurdity that we have to live with, when people ignore the actual events that went down and the way that boxing is done these days.

Taylor vs. Calzaghe?

Taylor vs. Calzaghe will be a good "has beens" fight next year, but it won't be a title fight.

Marnoff · 09-17-2007, 10:09 AM

It will be interesting to see if Taylor can gain strength moving up in weight as Cotto did.

pipe wrenched · 09-17-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lacyace

It's funny how all these Pavlik "fans" sound more like Taylor haters. Which leads me to question how many fans Pavlik will have left if he loses.

Should read "funny how SOME these Pavlik fans". Please don't lump us all in that group, because yes I'm a Pavlik fan and also like JT very much.

ChuckYoungblood · 09-17-2007, 10:29 AM

It seems like Amsterdam is ready to chase Blocky and JT all the way to the nether regions of hell. 6 month ban is a long time, especially right up to Kessler-Calzaghe fight.

Brickhaus · 09-17-2007, 10:37 AM

I'm just happy this fight has become a win-win for me. If Pavlik wins, it's great because Taylor will have lost and maybe I'll have to see him on TV less. If Taylor wins, then Amsterdam is gone for 7 months, and I don't have to read his drivel.

boxfan99 · 09-17-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Amsterdam

Andrade is not a P4P ranked fighter though is he?

You must have missed all of the attempts in negotiating Calzaghe to travel for a lower end of the deal, such as going to the United States for Jones and Hopkins at one point, and significantly, going to Germany for Beyer and Ottke, only for those deals to be shot down when the potential opponents had all the playing cards, except for what they had to do in the ring.

Guys like the conservative paced Hopkins and then jokes but names at the time in Ottke and Beyer simply cannot win, thus why the bouts never got anywhere in negotiations.

It'll be similiar with the young fighter Cristian Mijares until he gets signed with an American promotional outfit.

Calzaghe would never have gone to Germany to fight Ottke, and don't get me wrong I don't blame him the least, because unless he stopped Ottke he would have been robbed. He would probably even have been disqualified just for sending Ottke to the canvas.

But let me get this right regarding Hopkins, are you saying that Hopkins' people would have promoted the Calzaghe vs Hopkins fight and Calzaghe furthermore had to pay Hopkins for the fight. So in other words Calzaghe would not have any income from this fight only expenses?

The fight would have been in the UK just like the Lacy and Kessler fights and the attempted Taylor fight or are you going to claim that the Taylor fight would have been in the States too?

Calzaghe has only fought out of his comfort zone twice, and both times were when he knew there wasn't much of a risk.
First against Will McIntyre who had lost twice and never won anything or beat anyone of importence. That fight was on neutral ground at the Tysen vs Nielsen undercard.

Second time was in Germany against Veit, who Calzaghe already knew had no chin or will when faced with adversity.

boxfan99 · 09-17-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Amsterdam

Rest assured, Taylor is nothing in the 160-168 realm and Blocky will be banned for six months, as Blocky agreed to this in my other thread.

How do I know he will be removed in the event that he loses the bet? Because I am a moderator.

GREAT!

Stinky gloves · 09-17-2007, 11:30 AM

After Pavlik win the crown, Taylor will always have option to give peanut rematch to Winky or Hopkins.

MrMagic · 09-17-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by boxfan99

GREAT!

Yes your avatar is.

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