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Old 07-29-2009, 11:43 AM   #16
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Some guys lose their chin from dropping weight like Miguel Cotto. He became much sturdier once he was at a more natural weight. Some guys los their chin from age like Terry Norris and Riddick Bowe lost his from lack of conditioning. I dont care who it is, if a fighter takes the continuous beating such as Mike Tyson did against Douglas or Margarito did against Mosley, they are going to go down. As far as Ricky Hatton, the reason he was knocked out was because he was hit so cleanly. He was never hit that cleanly by Tsyzu or he would have been unconscious.
I didn't see any evidence of Bowe losing his punch resistance at all. He took bombs from Golota in both fights, and was still standing at the end.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:45 AM   #17
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whats stupid about my statement. have you seen the eubank and nelson fights
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:49 AM   #18
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how about evander holyfeild?

i remember when he was getting hurt by bert cooper and riddick bowe... then he went on to stand up to the hits or lennox lewis and mike tyson... then in his latter years he was hurt by ruiz and toney.

emanuel agustus from what i heard was ko's by jesus chavez, but he stood up to the best shots of bigger harder hitting teddy reid, kelson pinto, wilfredo vilches, diobleys hurtado and antonio diaz which was later in his career.

manny pacquiao is another one who was stopped twice early but shook off the best shots from morales and marquez.
good picks.
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Old 07-29-2009, 12:28 PM   #19
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Winky had a really bad night against whats his name early on in his career. His legs were like jello.

But he has faced a lot of big punchers after that and been tagged on the odd occasion and took it fine
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Winky had a really bad night against whats his name early on in his career. His legs were like jello.

But he has faced a lot of big punchers after that and been tagged on the odd occasion and took it fine
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Old 07-29-2009, 02:33 PM   #21
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whats stupid about my statement. have you seen the eubank and nelson fights
I think you're both right to a certain extent: Carl Thompson was easy to hurt and hard to finish off. He had good survival skills and retained his composure when he got hurt, but if you hit him with a good bomb he would short-circuit a bit.
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:47 PM   #22
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how about marcos geraldo,who gave hagler a tough 10 rounder,in his following bout was blown away in a round by caveman lee. geraldo also went the full 10 with SRL but was stopped,also in 1,by tommy hearns. geraldo had 28 career losses,21 inside the limit....he could obviously take a whack,some nights just better than others..
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Not all hard punches are equal.


One guy can take shots to the chin and temple only to go when he is hit on the top of the head. Another, vice versa.

Some guys have exceptional punch resistance by virtue of their physique and conditioning. The rest are pretty even.

Luck has a lot to do with it.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:10 PM   #24
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I didn't see any evidence of Bowe losing his punch resistance at all. He took bombs from Golota in both fights, and was still standing at the end.
He was knocked down against Holyfield in the third fight from a small check hook, and against Golota in both fights. He was badly hurt in those fights, but he did manage to get up and continue, but he had never been hurt like that in the past.
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i finishedd johnny tapia's book the other day and he said that the only time he hurt was in one of his early fights (like the 4th or 5th) but other then being stopped by a body shot after his prime, tapia had one of the best chins in boxing history i believe. he took konadu's, barrera's, romero's and soto's shots.
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i finishedd johnny tapia's book the other day and he said that the only time he hurt was in one of his early fights (like the 4th or 5th) but other then being stopped by a body shot after his prime, tapia had one of the best chins in boxing history i believe. he took konadu's, barrera's, romero's and soto's shots.
Against a guy named James Dean.
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He was knocked down against Holyfield in the third fight from a small check hook, and against Golota in both fights. He was badly hurt in those fights, but he did manage to get up and continue, but he had never been hurt like that in the past.
I don't think he saw the left hook from Holyfield, which would explain why he went down, but I guess I see your point with Golota 2. He showed a great chin in the first Golota fight, I saw. Infact, both of them.
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Against a guy named James Dean.
thanks addie!, did you enjoy the book?
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Not all hard punches are equal.


One guy can take shots to the chin and temple only to go when he is hit on the top of the head. Another, vice versa.

Some guys have exceptional punch resistance by virtue of their physique and conditioning. The rest are pretty even.

Luck has a lot to do with it.

great points. i think marvin hagler had concrete around all of his head. ask thomas hearns
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