Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan

GPater11093 · 07-26-2009, 01:54 PM

NP Jack Dempsey vs Tommy Ryan

You know the drill

answer and reason/explanation

closes in exactly a month

McGrain · 07-26-2009, 06:30 PM

What a wonderful fight this would be.

I'd guess at Dempsey. Much more adaptable, sounds two-handed, sounds mobile, sounds like he brings more. For obvious reasons, this is a bit of a stab.

GPater11093 · 07-26-2009, 06:32 PM

this is a dark horse fight of the tournament

teeto · 07-26-2009, 06:32 PM

I'll pick Dempsey as well, i think he was a very great middle, as was ryan, but i'll go with mcgrain's analysis of the fight anyway.

McGrain · 07-26-2009, 06:33 PM

It's a shame these two had to meet. Both interesting.

GPater11093 · 07-26-2009, 06:36 PM

McGrain thats the draw. i think most of the fighters who can win ddint get matched up with each other. as i seeded it.

janitor · 07-26-2009, 06:46 PM

Verry tough call.

Both these guys were regarded as technical wizzards in their day.

Ryan was probably the harder puncher of the two.

Dempsey was probably more highly regarded at middleweight.

That is about all we have to go on.

GPater11093 · 07-26-2009, 06:47 PM

Dempsey had more tricks though Janitor

janitor · 07-26-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPater11093

Dempsey had more tricks though Janitor

Ryan could be prety tricky himself.

I suspect that the rule set is probably the deciding factor here. My vote goes to whoever the ruleset of the fight is closest to the ideal for.

Mr Butt · 07-26-2009, 06:52 PM

from what i have read i see this as a great boxing match both quick but it seems dempsey was a bit quicker ,ryan hit harder both game and agile .i would go for dempsey`s extra bit of speed to take him to a decision win

Boilermaker · 07-27-2009, 05:47 AM

Well it is a close call. The Non Pareil held the title for 6 years and it took probably the greatest pound for pound hitter of all time in Fitzsimmons to take his title. Ryan got the title when Fitzsimmons vacated it and he ended up holding it for 8 years until he ended up vacating it. Ryan's 8 years would make him still the longest reigning middleweight champion ever, by my count. When they did meet, Dempsey was old but he was KOd early. I get the feeling that Ryan was a little stronger and more durable and hit that little bit harder. I will guess that it takes him a lot longer but he gets the same KO result as he did when they actually met. Ryan KO15.

Mendoza · 07-27-2009, 10:10 AM

Ryan was an all around talent. He could box, punch, take a punch, and he was smart. In many ways Ryan might be the most under rated middle of all time. He was very good. I think Ryan would prove to be too much for Non-Pareil Dempsey.

GPater11093 · 07-31-2009, 03:50 PM

3-2

Dempsey

07-26-2009, 01:54 PM	#1
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,119 vCash: 836	Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan NP Jack Dempsey vs Tommy Ryan You know the drill answer and reason/explanation closes in exactly a month
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07-26-2009, 06:30 PM	#2
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,265 vCash: 1000	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan What a wonderful fight this would be. I'd guess at Dempsey. Much more adaptable, sounds two-handed, sounds mobile, sounds like he brings more. For obvious reasons, this is a bit of a stab.
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07-26-2009, 06:32 PM	#3
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,119 vCash: 836	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan this is a dark horse fight of the tournament
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07-26-2009, 06:32 PM	#4
teeto Next Level Predictions East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Team Ireland Manor, Easing Pabuiao into the life of managing the GOAT Posts: 33,956 vCash: 1000	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan I'll pick Dempsey as well, i think he was a very great middle, as was ryan, but i'll go with mcgrain's analysis of the fight anyway.
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07-26-2009, 06:33 PM	#5
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 63,265 vCash: 1000	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan It's a shame these two had to meet. Both interesting.
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07-26-2009, 06:36 PM	#6
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,119 vCash: 836	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan McGrain thats the draw. i think most of the fighters who can win ddint get matched up with each other. as i seeded it.
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07-26-2009, 06:46 PM	#7
janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,058 vCash: 1000	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan Verry tough call. Both these guys were regarded as technical wizzards in their day. Ryan was probably the harder puncher of the two. Dempsey was probably more highly regarded at middleweight. That is about all we have to go on.
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07-26-2009, 06:47 PM	#8
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,119 vCash: 836	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan Dempsey had more tricks though Janitor
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07-26-2009, 06:52 PM	#10
Mr Butt Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2009 Location: out preaching for the church of benn Posts: 10,136 vCash: 1054	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan from what i have read i see this as a great boxing match both quick but it seems dempsey was a bit quicker ,ryan hit harder both game and agile .i would go for dempsey`s extra bit of speed to take him to a decision win
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07-27-2009, 05:47 AM	#11
Boilermaker Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,772 vCash: 685	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan Well it is a close call. The Non Pareil held the title for 6 years and it took probably the greatest pound for pound hitter of all time in Fitzsimmons to take his title. Ryan got the title when Fitzsimmons vacated it and he ended up holding it for 8 years until he ended up vacating it. Ryan's 8 years would make him still the longest reigning middleweight champion ever, by my count. When they did meet, Dempsey was old but he was KOd early. I get the feeling that Ryan was a little stronger and more durable and hit that little bit harder. I will guess that it takes him a lot longer but he gets the same KO result as he did when they actually met. Ryan KO15.
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07-27-2009, 10:10 AM	#12
Mendoza Dominating a decade East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 14,762 vCash: 1000	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan Ryan was an all around talent. He could box, punch, take a punch, and he was smart. In many ways Ryan might be the most under rated middle of all time. He was very good. I think Ryan would prove to be too much for Non-Pareil Dempsey.
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07-31-2009, 03:50 PM	#13
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,119 vCash: 836	Re: Middleweight Tournament First Pick Dempsey vs ryan 3-2 Dempsey
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