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Old 08-22-2009, 07:36 AM   #31
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Eating only twice a day and cutting fats is not eating right.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:50 AM   #32
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Back in my days of ultimate fitness, I ate everything I wanted as frequently as I could. I was lean and mean. Body fat was 4%, 5'8" 140. I was a high school sprinter with muscles on muscles. To me it wasn't so much the diet, as much as the amount of time I spent working out, and how I worked out. I was in training at least 3 hours daily, every day. Intense repetitive sprints and power building exercises. Everything was about building the most explosiveness possible, from both the upper, core and lower body. I couldn't run past 200 meters without dying, but my body was not trained to do that. Now that I'm older and running and walking long distances as an alternative to stay in shape, I can't get ripped, pumped or anywhere in the same general shape I was in back in my sprinting days. I'm convinced it's the workout that effects physique. I find myself eating only twice per day now, and even then, I have alot of trouble staying under 180. I eat right, cut the fats and do lots of cardio, but it's not the same as explosive building exercises. Problem now is, I'm old and every time I try building explosive power, I injure myself. My body simply can't take the repetitive stresses of those kinds of workouts. So I will keep walking, eating right and maybe some day, it will have the same magic bullet effect. But much like my hairline, I think those days are gone forever.
Sorry, but you were never 4%.
And as brother RDJ said, twice a day and no fats is no good. No wonder your hairline is receeding.
If you trained like you used to, you could probably eat like you used to,
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Old 08-22-2009, 11:24 AM   #33
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Your NEED fats in your diet. Your body also needs a constant supply of fuel to perform effectively. 4% bodyfat is unhealthy - John Beradi, one of the best in the buisness when it comes to nutrition recommends that you should never attempt to sustain a bodyfat percentage of less than 7%, and you should only drop below that for very short periods like an upcoming competition.
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:57 PM   #34
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Does anyone have any experience of Acai berries?

Whilst talking to the owner of my local health food store earlier today, she told me that she had just taken delivery of some Acai berry juice, and proceeded to give me a free bottle to try. I know little of the Acai berry, but I know the juice tastes really nice!
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Does anyone have any experience of Acai berries?

Whilst talking to the owner of my local health food store earlier today, she told me that she had just taken delivery of some Acai berry juice, and proceeded to give me a free bottle to try. I know little of the Acai berry, but I know the juice tastes really nice!
It's a berry

It contains anti-oxidants (because otherwise it would rot) like other berries. It has other chemicals to protect itself against disease that we have evolved to use as well, think of anti-bacterial chemicals and such. Comparable to blackberries or blueberries nutrition wise, too bad we only get the processed juice so I would pick whole blackberries (free this time of the year) over it any day. It has a great taste, that's for sure though.
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I knew you would be the guy to fill us in the the benefits of acai berries, rdj!

I always aim to get freshly picked fruits, but i'm also always keen to try new things, hence taking the juice, that and the fact it was free!! Freshly picked would be better... wonder if the uk climate can sustain acai palms...
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I knew you would be the guy to fill us in the the benefits of acai berries, rdj!

I always aim to get freshly picked fruits, but i'm also always keen to try new things, hence taking the juice, that and the fact it was free!! Freshly picked would be better... wonder if the uk climate can sustain acai palms...
Not a chance, they grow in the Amazon. It would be nice if they simply sold frozen ones. The only true way for me to know the anti-oxidants survived is by seeing berries that haven't oxidized yet, I'm rather wary of manufacturer claims.
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Old 08-22-2009, 06:45 PM   #38
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Well, i'm an optimist by nature rdj, or I hope I am anyway

I'll probably add the juice into my diet for the next 6 weeks or so and see if I notice any differences. You are spot on about manufacturers claims; behind each claim is a motive, and that motive is to sell their products, and many will do so by making false claims.
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Indeed. Again I'm not questioning the benefits of Acai, what I'm questioning is how much of those benefits end up in the supermarket. I don't think you will notice much difference, from what I gathered you're already on a nutrient dense diet.

Ps. Check whether it's pure Acai juice. Here in the Netherlands most "Acai juice" is 80% red grapes.
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Very comprehensive. Thanks.
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Old 08-23-2009, 09:52 AM   #41
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RDJ - according to the label its 80% acai, how true that is I don't know. My diet is already pretty good, but as i'm fussy where food is concerned, so I have a very limited selection of foods to choose from. With this in mind, my diet can get very repetitive and somewhat boring. Anything that I can add to my selection which is healthy is a bonus for me.
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You could also try Goji berries, also very high on anti-oxidants and available in whole, dried form. Almost the same as buckthorn berries, but you won't find those.
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I already get goji berries, although i'm not that set on the taste tbh. Never come across buckthorn berries.
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I think the notion that you need to eat 6-7 times a day is a bit of a myth in nutrition and gets a lot of new trainers in trouble.

The digestive system needs significant periods of rest in my opinion (and yes at some point it becomes all about opinion and what works for you)

I do like your meal suggestions. This is often the hardest part, putting togetehr meals that leave you satisfied psychologically as well as physically
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Back in my days of ultimate fitness, I ate everything I wanted as frequently as I could. I was lean and mean. Body fat was 4%, 5'8" 140. I was a high school sprinter with muscles on muscles. To me it wasn't so much the diet, as much as the amount of time I spent working out, and how I worked out. I was in training at least 3 hours daily, every day. Intense repetitive sprints and power building exercises. Everything was about building the most explosiveness possible, from both the upper, core and lower body. I couldn't run past 200 meters without dying, but my body was not trained to do that. Now that I'm older and running and walking long distances as an alternative to stay in shape, I can't get ripped, pumped or anywhere in the same general shape I was in back in my sprinting days. I'm convinced it's the workout that effects physique. I find myself eating only twice per day now, and even then, I have alot of trouble staying under 180. I eat right, cut the fats and do lots of cardio, but it's not the same as explosive building exercises. Problem now is, I'm old and every time I try building explosive power, I injure myself. My body simply can't take the repetitive stresses of those kinds of workouts. So I will keep walking, eating right and maybe some day, it will have the same magic bullet effect. But much like my hairline, I think those days are gone forever.
First of all if you were training 3 hours a day you weren't doing those explosive excercises with your full potential. Secondly if you couldn't even run 200 meters i'm guessing you've never been interested in pre-conditioning which is probably why you have injuries. Thirdly even the most amateur of Athletes should know that there are different types of fitness, if you're walking and running slowly you're training your slow twitch fibres and getting rid of your fast twitch fibres, training your aerobic energy systems instead of your anaerobic.

You have to build off a base, do some weight training for pre-conditioning and strength, quit your slow jogs and build some fast twitch fibres if you want to look better and lose weight. And yeah eat more. Find a simple sports science book and educate yourself man!
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