Nutrition for boxing - Page 3

Boxfan1 · 08-21-2009, 11:58 AM

Back in my days of ultimate fitness, I ate everything I wanted as frequently as I could. I was lean and mean. Body fat was 4%, 5'8" 140. I was a high school sprinter with muscles on muscles. To me it wasn't so much the diet, as much as the amount of time I spent working out, and how I worked out. I was in training at least 3 hours daily, every day. Intense repetitive sprints and power building exercises. Everything was about building the most explosiveness possible, from both the upper, core and lower body. I couldn't run past 200 meters without dying, but my body was not trained to do that. Now that I'm older and running and walking long distances as an alternative to stay in shape, I can't get ripped, pumped or anywhere in the same general shape I was in back in my sprinting days. I'm convinced it's the workout that effects physique. I find myself eating only twice per day now, and even then, I have alot of trouble staying under 180. I eat right, cut the fats and do lots of cardio, but it's not the same as explosive building exercises. Problem now is, I'm old and every time I try building explosive power, I injure myself. My body simply can't take the repetitive stresses of those kinds of workouts. So I will keep walking, eating right and maybe some day, it will have the same magic bullet effect. But much like my hairline, I think those days are gone forever.

RDJ · 08-22-2009, 07:36 AM

Eating only twice a day and cutting fats is not eating right.

MrSmall · 08-22-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxfan1

Back in my days of ultimate fitness, I ate everything I wanted as frequently as I could. I was lean and mean. Body fat was 4%, 5'8" 140. I was a high school sprinter with muscles on muscles. To me it wasn't so much the diet, as much as the amount of time I spent working out, and how I worked out. I was in training at least 3 hours daily, every day. Intense repetitive sprints and power building exercises. Everything was about building the most explosiveness possible, from both the upper, core and lower body. I couldn't run past 200 meters without dying, but my body was not trained to do that. Now that I'm older and running and walking long distances as an alternative to stay in shape, I can't get ripped, pumped or anywhere in the same general shape I was in back in my sprinting days. I'm convinced it's the workout that effects physique. I find myself eating only twice per day now, and even then, I have alot of trouble staying under 180. I eat right, cut the fats and do lots of cardio, but it's not the same as explosive building exercises. Problem now is, I'm old and every time I try building explosive power, I injure myself. My body simply can't take the repetitive stresses of those kinds of workouts. So I will keep walking, eating right and maybe some day, it will have the same magic bullet effect. But much like my hairline, I think those days are gone forever.

Sorry, but you were never 4%.
And as brother RDJ said, twice a day and no fats is no good. No wonder your hairline is receeding.
If you trained like you used to, you could probably eat like you used to,

Bodi · 08-22-2009, 11:24 AM

Your NEED fats in your diet. Your body also needs a constant supply of fuel to perform effectively. 4% bodyfat is unhealthy - John Beradi, one of the best in the buisness when it comes to nutrition recommends that you should never attempt to sustain a bodyfat percentage of less than 7%, and you should only drop below that for very short periods like an upcoming competition.

Bodi · 08-22-2009, 04:57 PM

Does anyone have any experience of Acai berries?

Whilst talking to the owner of my local health food store earlier today, she told me that she had just taken delivery of some Acai berry juice, and proceeded to give me a free bottle to try. I know little of the Acai berry, but I know the juice tastes really nice!

RDJ · 08-22-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodi

Does anyone have any experience of Acai berries?

Whilst talking to the owner of my local health food store earlier today, she told me that she had just taken delivery of some Acai berry juice, and proceeded to give me a free bottle to try. I know little of the Acai berry, but I know the juice tastes really nice!

It's a berry

It contains anti-oxidants (because otherwise it would rot) like other berries. It has other chemicals to protect itself against disease that we have evolved to use as well, think of anti-bacterial chemicals and such. Comparable to blackberries or blueberries nutrition wise, too bad we only get the processed juice so I would pick whole blackberries (free this time of the year) over it any day. It has a great taste, that's for sure though.

Bodi · 08-22-2009, 06:14 PM

I knew you would be the guy to fill us in the the benefits of acai berries, rdj!

I always aim to get freshly picked fruits, but i'm also always keen to try new things, hence taking the juice, that and the fact it was free!! Freshly picked would be better... wonder if the uk climate can sustain acai palms...

RDJ · 08-22-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodi

I knew you would be the guy to fill us in the the benefits of acai berries, rdj!

I always aim to get freshly picked fruits, but i'm also always keen to try new things, hence taking the juice, that and the fact it was free!! Freshly picked would be better... wonder if the uk climate can sustain acai palms...

Not a chance, they grow in the Amazon. It would be nice if they simply sold frozen ones. The only true way for me to know the anti-oxidants survived is by seeing berries that haven't oxidized yet, I'm rather wary of manufacturer claims.

Bodi · 08-22-2009, 06:45 PM

Well, i'm an optimist by nature rdj, or I hope I am anyway

I'll probably add the juice into my diet for the next 6 weeks or so and see if I notice any differences. You are spot on about manufacturers claims; behind each claim is a motive, and that motive is to sell their products, and many will do so by making false claims.

RDJ · 08-22-2009, 06:48 PM

Indeed. Again I'm not questioning the benefits of Acai, what I'm questioning is how much of those benefits end up in the supermarket. I don't think you will notice much difference, from what I gathered you're already on a nutrient dense diet.

Ps. Check whether it's pure Acai juice. Here in the Netherlands most "Acai juice" is 80% red grapes.

markedwardscott · 08-23-2009, 09:40 AM

Very comprehensive. Thanks.

Bodi · 08-23-2009, 09:52 AM

RDJ - according to the label its 80% acai, how true that is I don't know. My diet is already pretty good, but as i'm fussy where food is concerned, so I have a very limited selection of foods to choose from. With this in mind, my diet can get very repetitive and somewhat boring. Anything that I can add to my selection which is healthy is a bonus for me.

RDJ · 08-23-2009, 03:18 PM

You could also try Goji berries, also very high on anti-oxidants and available in whole, dried form. Almost the same as buckthorn berries, but you won't find those.

Bodi · 08-23-2009, 04:33 PM

I already get goji berries, although i'm not that set on the taste tbh. Never come across buckthorn berries.

TheDuke · 08-29-2009, 04:41 AM

I think the notion that you need to eat 6-7 times a day is a bit of a myth in nutrition and gets a lot of new trainers in trouble.

The digestive system needs significant periods of rest in my opinion (and yes at some point it becomes all about opinion and what works for you)

I do like your meal suggestions. This is often the hardest part, putting togetehr meals that leave you satisfied psychologically as well as physically

08-21-2009, 11:58 AM	#31
Boxfan1 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,740 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing Back in my days of ultimate fitness, I ate everything I wanted as frequently as I could. I was lean and mean. Body fat was 4%, 5'8" 140. I was a high school sprinter with muscles on muscles. To me it wasn't so much the diet, as much as the amount of time I spent working out, and how I worked out. I was in training at least 3 hours daily, every day. Intense repetitive sprints and power building exercises. Everything was about building the most explosiveness possible, from both the upper, core and lower body. I couldn't run past 200 meters without dying, but my body was not trained to do that. Now that I'm older and running and walking long distances as an alternative to stay in shape, I can't get ripped, pumped or anywhere in the same general shape I was in back in my sprinting days. I'm convinced it's the workout that effects physique. I find myself eating only twice per day now, and even then, I have alot of trouble staying under 180. I eat right, cut the fats and do lots of cardio, but it's not the same as explosive building exercises. Problem now is, I'm old and every time I try building explosive power, I injure myself. My body simply can't take the repetitive stresses of those kinds of workouts. So I will keep walking, eating right and maybe some day, it will have the same magic bullet effect. But much like my hairline, I think those days are gone forever.
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08-22-2009, 07:36 AM	#32
RDJ Gent And Scholar East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I'm not your buddy, pal. Posts: 32,578 vCash: 202	Re: Nutrition for boxing Eating only twice a day and cutting fats is not eating right.
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08-22-2009, 11:24 AM	#34
Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing Your NEED fats in your diet. Your body also needs a constant supply of fuel to perform effectively. 4% bodyfat is unhealthy - John Beradi, one of the best in the buisness when it comes to nutrition recommends that you should never attempt to sustain a bodyfat percentage of less than 7%, and you should only drop below that for very short periods like an upcoming competition.
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08-22-2009, 04:57 PM	#35
Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing Does anyone have any experience of Acai berries? Whilst talking to the owner of my local health food store earlier today, she told me that she had just taken delivery of some Acai berry juice, and proceeded to give me a free bottle to try. I know little of the Acai berry, but I know the juice tastes really nice!
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08-22-2009, 06:14 PM	#37
Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing I knew you would be the guy to fill us in the the benefits of acai berries, rdj! I always aim to get freshly picked fruits, but i'm also always keen to try new things, hence taking the juice, that and the fact it was free!! Freshly picked would be better... wonder if the uk climate can sustain acai palms...
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08-22-2009, 06:45 PM	#39
Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing Well, i'm an optimist by nature rdj, or I hope I am anyway I'll probably add the juice into my diet for the next 6 weeks or so and see if I notice any differences. You are spot on about manufacturers claims; behind each claim is a motive, and that motive is to sell their products, and many will do so by making false claims.
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08-22-2009, 06:48 PM	#40
RDJ Gent And Scholar East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I'm not your buddy, pal. Posts: 32,578 vCash: 202	Re: Nutrition for boxing Indeed. Again I'm not questioning the benefits of Acai, what I'm questioning is how much of those benefits end up in the supermarket. I don't think you will notice much difference, from what I gathered you're already on a nutrient dense diet. Ps. Check whether it's pure Acai juice. Here in the Netherlands most "Acai juice" is 80% red grapes.
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08-23-2009, 09:40 AM	#41
markedwardscott Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 585 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing Very comprehensive. Thanks.
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08-23-2009, 09:52 AM	#42
Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing RDJ - according to the label its 80% acai, how true that is I don't know. My diet is already pretty good, but as i'm fussy where food is concerned, so I have a very limited selection of foods to choose from. With this in mind, my diet can get very repetitive and somewhat boring. Anything that I can add to my selection which is healthy is a bonus for me.
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08-23-2009, 03:18 PM	#43
RDJ Gent And Scholar East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I'm not your buddy, pal. Posts: 32,578 vCash: 202	Re: Nutrition for boxing You could also try Goji berries, also very high on anti-oxidants and available in whole, dried form. Almost the same as buckthorn berries, but you won't find those.
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08-23-2009, 04:33 PM	#44
Bodi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: uk Posts: 914 vCash: 1000	Re: Nutrition for boxing I already get goji berries, although i'm not that set on the taste tbh. Never come across buckthorn berries.
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08-29-2009, 04:41 AM	#45
TheDuke Let me marry Boxed Ears East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Your girlfriend's handbag Posts: 14,499 vCash: 75	Re: Nutrition for boxing I think the notion that you need to eat 6-7 times a day is a bit of a myth in nutrition and gets a lot of new trainers in trouble. The digestive system needs significant periods of rest in my opinion (and yes at some point it becomes all about opinion and what works for you) I do like your meal suggestions. This is often the hardest part, putting togetehr meals that leave you satisfied psychologically as well as physically
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