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Old 09-21-2007, 06:03 AM   #106
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Congrats on making the cut. what i find funny is though i didnt get one mention or nominated by one person.

I guess being the reigning Boxing Tipping Champ doesnt mean stuff all.

Its not like i can Nominate myself for something like this. Having said that there are plenty of bigger names than myself that should be on this panel before say the expert tippster. But i would say this job would be perfect for say someone like myself that would class himself more an analyst that anything else.
Sorry mate. I was thinking of you, its just there are a lot of people too choose from when there are only two.

You will be one of the first peope I vote to have put forward once it expands.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:15 AM   #107
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Congrats on making the cut. what i find funny is though i didnt get one mention or nominated by one person.

I guess being the reigning Boxing Tipping Champ doesnt mean stuff all.

Its not like i can Nominate myself for something like this. Having said that there are plenty of bigger names than myself that should be on this panel before say the expert tippster. But i would say this job would be perfect for say someone like myself that would class himself more an analyst that anything else.
I would love to see you break down fights more often and discuss how fighters are going to win. Tipping comps are great, and winning does mean something, but when you don't know a lot of the fighters like in ours it detracts from the analytical side to an extent.

I have seen you break down a fight well before, but i don't really read such posts often from yourself like I do some of the other guys here.

I know you don't have much time with the new job so it makes it hard. Would be good if you get a chance to see your thoughts on some up coming fights.

Mosley v Cotto
Kessler v Calzaghe
Taylor v Pavlik
Pac v Barrera

Just as a start. Not doubting you, just saying that if people read more of your stuff then it gives you a better chance of getting nominated.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:51 AM   #108
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I don't know what's going on here. Can I vote for PolishPummler and Axe?
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:47 AM   #109
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I don't know what's going on here. Can I vote for PolishPummler and Axe?
I guess so. The rest of committee would probably appreciate it, then they could get the sloppy seconds from the powers of the Axe effect.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:14 AM   #110
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:25 PM   #111
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Ive checked out what is for. i think and believe that voting for a system that may be flawed anyway. i mean really the only way for the ESB rankings to be fair is if you have members from selected areas.

Like example.

10 - USA spots
5 - UK spots
3 - European Spots (Not UK)
3 - Aussie Spots
3 - Asian Spots
5 - Latin spots (Mex,PR,Bra etc)

Thats the only way i see it to be fair and get fair voting.
Half bump, half retort.

The idea of guaranteeing posters from geographic locations is a good idea, but it has its flaws as well. In order to maintain the quota, you may have posters with extreme biases or lack of general boxing knowledge. Then we would just be appointing them based on their location and not their boxing acumen. There have been posters from outside the U.S. that have already made the cut and I'm sure there will be more. But you cant have people on the committee based solely on their origins. This is about fairly assessing and rating fighters, and location should not be taken into account. Most of the people nominated have been so due to their integrity and proven knowledge of the sport, so what logic would you use for guaranteeing some one a spot from another geographic locale if the people nominated are unbiased?

The only logic is access to local televised bouts.

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Old 09-21-2007, 02:27 PM   #112
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I really don't see the problem with voting for the poster that you think is best. What's the point in insisting upon this or that if you potentially limit the only pure resource you have?
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:30 PM   #113
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I really don't see the problem with voting for the poster that you think is best. What's the point in insisting upon this or that if you potentially limit the only pure resource you have?
Indeed! The best posters/analysts are the best no because they come from/represent a certain continent, but because they are objective and good at what they do!
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:03 PM   #114
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Thank you to everyone who elected to nominate me. I accept my nomination and will do my best to make sure ESB's ratings are truly impartial if I end up being elected.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:17 PM   #115
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Oh, didn't realize I could nominate 2 more - I chose CHJ and Decebal
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:17 AM   #116
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:19 AM   #117
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Oh, didn't realize I could nominate 2 more - I chose CHJ and Decebal
You and CHJ are in, excellence.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:25 AM   #118
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You and CHJ are in, excellence.
I am very surprised that I got in, maybe those Benjamin Franklins had something to do with it.

I hope we get another round, because I still want to vote for Requiem and MSTR.
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