Who hit as hard as Fitzsimmons...

[cross_trainer]

And weighed between 154 and 168 pounds properly hydrated?

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by cross_trainer

And weighed between 154 and 168 pounds properly hydrated?

Probably no one , allthough Jack Johnson said that Choynsky hit harder than Fitz.
"Jeffries had a solid wallop, and Fitz could knock your brains out ,but that Choynsky,he could plumb paralyze you"

[Flea Man]

DID NOT READ THE THREAD!!!!!


Still, Julian Jackson probably

[cross_trainer]

Originally Posted by fleaman

DID NOT READ THE THREAD!!!!!


Still, Julian Jackson probably

That is my suspicion as well (at least out of all of the modern guys)

McClellan misses getting the nod because he's actually a dehydrated lightheavyweight.

[McGrain]

Choynski hit harder, no? According to Jeffries and Corbett anyway.

[Unforgiven]

Sam Langford.
As hard as, or possibly harder.

[GPater11093]

Originally Posted by cross_trainer

That is my suspicion as well (at least out of all of the modern guys)

McClellan misses getting the nod because he's actually a dehydrated lightheavyweight.

So was Fitz

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by cross_trainer

And weighed between 154 and 168 pounds properly hydrated?

Julian Jackson of course.
maybe Ricardo Mayorga also.
worth mentioning : Reggie Johnson , Roy Jones , Nigel Benn ,
Sam Langford (when not extremely fat)
never underestimate the great combination of HGH+steroides+weightlifting

[frankenfrank]

Originally Posted by cross_trainer

That is my suspicion as well (at least out of all of the modern guys)

McClellan misses getting the nod because he's actually a dehydrated lightheavyweight.

Oh No !
if he was such then he wouldn't have weighed only 165 for the Benn fight.

[essexboy]

Originally Posted by frankenfrank

Julian Jackson of course.
maybe Ricardo Mayorga also.
worth mentioning : Reggie Johnson , Roy Jones , Nigel Benn ,
Sam Langford (when not extremely fat)
never underestimate the great combination of HGH+steroides+weightlifting

So what are you saying? Most modern hardhitters are steroid users? Im not saying its not true but innocent until proven guilty surely. Only Jones on your list was known to use steroids. Reggie Johnson hit nowhere near as hard as Fitzsimmons.

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by McGrain

Choynski hit harder, no? According to Jeffries and Corbett anyway.

Jeffries did in fact say that Choynsky hit him harder than anyone, he made the quote when referring to a punch from Choynsky that drove his top lip through his teeth.,it had to be pulled out by his seconds.

[cross_trainer]

Originally Posted by GPater11093

So was Fitz

True, largely. You do have to make allowances for fighters in Benn's time being "better" at it, though.

Does Fitz's training manual recommend the usual course of dehydration? I don't quite recall.

[SuzieQ49]

Stanley Ketchel, easily

[mcvey]

While I dont doubt Ketchel was a terrific middleweight puncher, Fitz was a terrific heavyweight puncher.
Ketchel stopped 1 heavyweight Porky Flynn ,who was kod 13 times,Fitz and Choynsky stopped many big men.

[Flea Man]

Originally Posted by mcvey

While I dont doubt Ketchel was a terrific middleweight puncher, Fitz was a terrific heavyweight puncher.
Ketchel stopped 1 heavyweight Porky Flynn ,who was kod 13 times,Fitz and Choynsky stopped many big men.

Still though, lacklustre showing or not Ketchel DROPPED Jack Johnson.

He could definitely bang at any weight.

I think it's a valid argument.