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Old 09-19-2009, 11:58 AM   #1
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Default I Think Wladamir Klitschko Is a Hall Of Famer

I think if Wlad retired now, he is worthy of being inducted into the IBHOF. I feel he is a more accomplished fighter than Jeff Chandler, Ingemar Johansson, Barry McGuigan, and Jess Willard.

Wlad has done all any champion can ever do, and that’s beat the best of his era. There are no significant heavies out there that he’s ducked, and for the last five years he’s decisively beaten whoever has been put in front of him A few more years at this level and I think it’ll be hard to deny Wlad his place at the top table.

He’s hardly the first champion to be boring or to fight in an era lacking top quality opposition. How many prime great light-heavies did Bob Foster beat, for instance? Yet no one disputes Foster’s greatness
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:13 PM   #2
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Hes definitely a hall of famer, with the class of guys you've already got in there.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:20 PM   #3
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definitely yes!!!!!!
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:05 PM   #4
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Given the fighters inducted to date I would raise no objections.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:11 PM   #5
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I suppose i'd agree grudgingly that Wlad is a hall of famer, i find it hard to give this guy respect when judging him against the true heavyweight champions considering who hes been beaten by and considering hes been down against Sam Peter .... But let me say statistically he'll be in the hall of fame despite operating in the weakest heavyweight division of all time ..

Jack Johnson would treat both Klit brothers with absolute contempt ....
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:21 PM   #6
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I suppose i'd agree grudgingly that Wlad is a hall of famer, i find it hard to give this guy respect when judging him against the true heavyweight champions considering who hes been beaten by and considering hes been down against Sam Peter .... But let me say statistically he'll be in the hall of fame despite operating in the weakest heavyweight division of all time ..

Jack Johnson would treat both Klit brothers with absolute contempt ....
Put it this way-

Jimmy Braddock is in.

Ingemar Johansen is in.

By that logic Primo Carnera should be in.

Wlad should ultimately get in.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:17 PM   #7
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I'm not sure it's much worth bragging about these days...being in the Hall of Fame.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:46 PM   #8
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Put it this way-

Jimmy Braddock is in.

Ingemar Johansen is in.

By that logic Primo Carnera should be in.

Wlad should ultimately get in.
I should think it is next to impossible NOT to get in , its devalued to a meaningless level now ,so what the hell, make room for Butter Bean!
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:48 PM   #9
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Agreed. But that may say more about the caliber of fighter they let in these days than it does about Klitschko.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:40 PM   #10
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I'm not sure it's much worth bragging about these days...being in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah the waitresses at Hooters used to be a lot hotter too.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:05 PM   #11
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For all the above reasons that have already been listed, I have to concur with the majority here. The only thing that can be asked of a good or even great fighter is to beat the best fighters that were/are available during his time as champ. Let's face it, Lennox Lewis is gone and Wlad is never going to fight his own brother. This leaves guys like Eddie Chambers, Alexander Povetking, Nicolay Valuev and David Haye ( who is unproven. ). None of these men have been ducked by Wlad and none of them really stand out as being significantly better than many of the fighters he's already beaten. In fact, I think Ruslan Chagaev was probably the last legitimate piece of the puzzle. Of course Wlad has some unavenged losses, but so did a lot of other guys who either lost early in their careers or later when they were past it. Wlad's defeats at the hands of Corrie Sanders and Ross Purity will always be held against him to some extent, but I don't think that they outweigh his beating an entire generation of rated opponents, and unifying multiple titles.
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Old 09-19-2009, 10:09 PM   #12
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yeah he just puts me to sleep sometimes excpescially with rusland chagaev fight
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Old 09-20-2009, 06:48 AM   #13
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Wlad is a near lock. The voting of a mostly North American panel of men who grew up in the cold war era will be interesting.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:37 AM   #14
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yeah he just puts me to sleep sometimes excpescially with rusland chagaev fight
He is patently the best heavyweight out there ,but unfortunately also the most boring,he draws crowds in Germany ,but only flies in the US.
The latest Ring magazine summed him up rather well .

"Klitschko hasnt fought in Las Vegas since 2004.Since then he has fought almost exclusively in Europe,and for good reason.
There were approximately 61,000 people at the Veltin's Arena in Germany to watch Klitschko fight Chagaev,and an astonishing 11million viewers watching on German tv".
"he's become an overly cautious fighter who works behind a high guard"

"Wladimir versus a few more dull Russians could kill off any ramaining interest Americans have in the heavyweight division "
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:45 AM   #15
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i think wlad is way overrated by some but he needs some quality opponents there is an old quote that boxing is only as strong as the heavyweights or something like that anyway. its early for me
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