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Old 09-24-2009, 02:30 PM   #1
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A couple of weeks ago I mentioned how Jack Johnson would control fighters in clinches by applying pressure to their biceps.
Mendoza ridiculed this ,so for his education ,and your delectation .


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Old 09-24-2009, 02:36 PM   #2
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Squeezing the biceps was a tactic that former light-heavy contender Pierre Fourie used quite a bit too.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:52 PM   #3
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Squeezing the biceps was a tactic that former light-heavy contender Pierre Fourie used quite a bit too.
Sorry, I can't get the video up but its on you tube Lipton talking about sparring with Tiger ,very interesting insights.
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I believe he mentions this around 3:57.
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I believe he mentions this around 3:57.
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i remember reading that len harvey used to squeeze opponents biceps and had a vice-like grip.he used this tactic against his great rival at middle and light heavy ,jock mcavoy the rochdale thunderbolt.
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yeah some of the old schoolers did that but it's deplorable, just like rubbing your opponents face/eyes - boxing is not wrestling
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Old 09-25-2009, 06:39 AM   #8
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I love things like these -- and I disagree about it being deplorable. Some men with a world-title are champions in every sense of the word -- like Arguello -- yet others simply became king-of-the-hill. They came from nothing, warred like inmates, until someone gave them a belt for their efforts, and they'll be damned before they'll let you take it away.

Men like Duran -- men like Hopkins. They fight rough, often dirty, they intimidate, and seem all the more insurmountable for it.

This is also a side of the square circle, and I'm glad, because there is no better fight then one between two men that give no quarter.
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yeah some of the old schoolers did that but it's deplorable, just like rubbing your opponents face/eyes - boxing is not wrestling
It's a dirty tactic sure. Some fighters regard fighting dirty as a skill just as much as jabbing is.
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It's a dirty tactic sure. Some fighters regard fighting dirty as a skill just as much as jabbing is.
i would agree that its a skill.its as natural as being a big hitter to some fighters.
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It's a dirty tactic sure. Some fighters regard fighting dirty as a skill just as much as jabbing is.
I think of it as a guerilla tactic. but if he does that in a situation that he's able to cope with, thats when it turns dirty...and lazy
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yeah some of the old schoolers did that but it's deplorable, just like rubbing your opponents face/eyes - boxing is not wrestling

You can't compare eye rubbing/gouging to bicep holding.
Marciano clouted Walcott as he knelt on the floor.
Tyson won his world title with a forearm smash to Berbick's face.
Ali retained his by repeatedly grabbing the back of Foreman's neck.
Holyfield butted more opponents than a ram.
Boxing is professional fighting. Grabbing a bicep is a legitimate tactic to nulify an opponent's range of movement. Ali regularly did it, Jack Johnson regularly did it, SRR regularly did it. They are not wrestlers they are ATG's.
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