What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins?

magnificentdave · 09-28-2007, 04:11 PM

I see Winky winning this one based on work rate, Roy would try to dictate the pace of the fight with his hand speed,

but I don't see him hurting Winky seriously at this point in his carreer, and he would get busted with the jab all night...

Hopkins showed how to neutralize Winky's come forward constant jabbing- with clinching and short chopping punches, making him fight off his back foot,

there is no way the Roy we have seen in his last few fights can stay off the ropes long enough to effectively pressure Winky...

What do you think?

brooklyn1550 · 09-28-2007, 04:16 PM

I don't think Roy would be able to move enough to produce the angles needed to beat Winky. Even at 170 or so, I think Winky would win a decision based on his jab, pressure, and workrate.

Prime Jones and it's no question he wins though.

brooklyn1550 · 09-28-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Boxer77

winky wouldnt fuk shit up now, bro roy jones would beat both winky and bernard if he keeps the fight in the middle of the ring. hes still too fukin fast for them.

He wouldn't be able to keep the fight in the middle of the ring for 12 rounds

kg0208 · 09-28-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicious Boxer77

winky wouldnt fuk shit up now, bro roy jones would beat both winky and bernard if he keeps the fight in the middle of the ring. hes still too fukin fast for them.

So fast hands automatically wins? Nothing else matters?

He Hate Me · 09-28-2007, 06:11 PM

When Winky was a relative unknown rjj promoted him for numerous fights under square ring inc., this fight probably wouldn't have happened.

magnificentdave · 09-28-2007, 06:28 PM

interesting trivia, thanks for the info

KhanB · 09-28-2007, 06:33 PM

Tarver applied pressure to Jones the same way Winky usually applies pressure in all his fights. I think Winky tires Jones down and eventually gets him to the ropes or in the corner and wins a decision at this stage.

Marnoff · 09-28-2007, 06:34 PM

Winky would have beaten Roy.

Pimp C · 09-28-2007, 06:46 PM

Winky by UD

platnumpapi · 09-28-2007, 08:48 PM

prime for prime at 160 rjj wins.right now if they fought hmm i can see winky outpointing him.no one would get koed but i can see winky outpointing this pointin there career.

klion22 · 09-28-2007, 09:00 PM

Hopkins beat Wright because he has great footwork and fundamentals. RJJ does not. Hopkins neutralized Wright's jab with side to side movement, never standing in front of him. RJJ never relied on fundamentals to get it done. Wright would've found RJJ enough to win a unaminous decision IMO. No KOs and no one gets hurt but Wright's workrate, pressure, jab along with his defense would get him the win.

09-28-2007, 04:11 PM	#1
magnificentdave Constant Reminder ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 921 vCash: 1540	What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? I see Winky winning this one based on work rate, Roy would try to dictate the pace of the fight with his hand speed, but I don't see him hurting Winky seriously at this point in his carreer, and he would get busted with the jab all night... Hopkins showed how to neutralize Winky's come forward constant jabbing- with clinching and short chopping punches, making him fight off his back foot, there is no way the Roy we have seen in his last few fights can stay off the ropes long enough to effectively pressure Winky... What do you think?
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09-28-2007, 04:16 PM	#2
brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 12,401 vCash: 1000	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? I don't think Roy would be able to move enough to produce the angles needed to beat Winky. Even at 170 or so, I think Winky would win a decision based on his jab, pressure, and workrate. Prime Jones and it's no question he wins though.
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He Hate Me Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York Posts: 511 vCash: 1000	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? When Winky was a relative unknown rjj promoted him for numerous fights under square ring inc., this fight probably wouldn't have happened.
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magnificentdave Constant Reminder ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 921 vCash: 1540	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? interesting trivia, thanks for the info
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KhanB Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: By a casino Posts: 427 vCash: 1000	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? Tarver applied pressure to Jones the same way Winky usually applies pressure in all his fights. I think Winky tires Jones down and eventually gets him to the ropes or in the corner and wins a decision at this stage.
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Marnoff Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 12,845 vCash: 1000	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? Winky would have beaten Roy.
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Pimp C I Ain't Got No Worries East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 36,336 vCash: 75	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? Winky by UD
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platnumpapi Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,963 vCash: 1000	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? prime for prime at 160 rjj wins.right now if they fought hmm i can see winky outpointing him.no one would get koed but i can see winky outpointing this pointin there career.
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klion22 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 10,521 vCash: 3000	Re: What if Winky had fought RJJ instead of Hopkins? Hopkins beat Wright because he has great footwork and fundamentals. RJJ does not. Hopkins neutralized Wright's jab with side to side movement, never standing in front of him. RJJ never relied on fundamentals to get it done. Wright would've found RJJ enough to win a unaminous decision IMO. No KOs and no one gets hurt but Wright's workrate, pressure, jab along with his defense would get him the win.
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