Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - Page 3

TommyV · 10-27-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yal

Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam v Affif Belghecham
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Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam v Woulid Guarras
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Hassan N'dam vs Karoly Balzsay (sparring)
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Hassan N'dam vs Gennady Martyrosian
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Thankyou sir. I already have the Belghcham & Guarras fights, but I was really interested in seeing his fight with Martirosyan. Sparring videos are always a bonus aswell.

TommyV · 10-27-2009, 06:06 PM

What d'you make of this kid so far IB? How do you think he stacks up to the likes of Jacobs, Pirog and Golovkin at this stage?

TFFP · 10-27-2009, 06:12 PM

Thanks for the videos, yal. Been meaning to see his fight with Martiosyan.

TommyV · 10-27-2009, 07:18 PM

The final punch that knocked Gourras out was a beaut.

TFFP · 10-27-2009, 08:21 PM

Finished watching his fight against Martirosyan. I was impressed. Overall he schooled him and got the stoppage, can't ask for more.

A few small points however...

He might want to be careful with the way he pulls back with his hands down after landing his shots. I know its a natural style for him, but the Armenian landed at least one hard right hand and several others narrowly missed. You just have to be careful, against a better fighter it could be a costly flaw.

On a similar vein he also tends to jump in and go straight to the body without setting the shot up with even a jab. That's okay here because he had such a speed advantage and the Armenian couldn't set his feet to counter him but he gets quite square on and open. That means his balance is not perfect and he could get knocked down if not hurt.

There also seemed to be a period where he hit a lull, the he let the other guy get close to him in rounds 6, 7 and 8. Martirosyan wasn't that effective but I sensed he grew in confidence a little as N'dam took his foot off the pedal. Needs to keep focused for every round, its easy to let your standards slip against a less skilled foe.

Could have also taken advantage of the first knockdown a little better, he got wild and carried away. If he just fought like he had been he could have scored the KO there and then.

These are very minor critiques overall, I praise his jab which was very sharp and effective, his output is extremely good in quality and volume. Jab/right hand/body work/uppercut and his real power punch seems to be the left hook which is a beauty. He's also unpredictable, he can lead with any of these punches. His stamina seemed to never end. And really for me his defining quality is how light he is on his feet. He moves exceptionally well, he's a great athlete no doubt.

TFFP · 10-27-2009, 08:26 PM

As a further point I can also fully believe he gives a lot of German based fighters a world of trouble in sparring. It's not difficult to imagine because he's such a good mover, whereas some of those boys are quite static fighters.

yal · 10-28-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyV

What d'you make of this kid so far IB? How do you think he stacks up to the likes of Jacobs, Pirog and Golovkin at this stage?

I do not understand what you meant, but I assure you that Hassan is ready to go to Germany to face Golovkin a WBA eliminator, but Dietmar Poszwa (Golovkin manager) refused. Pirog for Hassan has seen many of his struggle, he is convinced he would beat if they confront each other, Hassan is more diverse, more mobile, and Pirog has defensive lapses. for Jacobs, I gave Hassan has four of his fights, he thinks he has not even won his last fight against Ishe Smith (Golovkin next opponent).

yal · 10-28-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyV

Thankyou sir. I already have the Belghcham & Guarras fights, but I was really interested in seeing his fight with Martirosyan. Sparring videos are always a bonus aswell.

I'll try to put a six-rounder between Hassan and Sturm and four between Hassan and Sylvester.

TFFP · 10-28-2009, 01:49 AM

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I'll try to put a six-rounder between Hassan and Sturm and four between Hassan and Sylvester.

Yes, please. I'd love to see that.

TommyV · 10-28-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TFFP

Yes, please. I'd love to see that.

You're not the only one.

cubex · 10-28-2009, 02:18 PM

After watching tape on him I must say he impressed me a lot and became my favorite between the MW prospects.
He has it all,speed(in hands,feet and body movement),power,natural ability,athleticism,great reflexes and is very entertaining.
I like that he is a offensive fighter but can also box on the backfot if needed.His left hook is a thing of beauty,the way he finished Martirosyan with it and especially Guarras reminded me of Mosley-Vargas II.
What I don't like is that he seems to lunge in alot and admire his work often times going in and straight out with his hands down and getting caught.His defensesive maneuvres thrive on his reflexes a lot.He seemes to have some defensive liabilities.
His finishing skills might also be in question since he had Guarras hurt badly in the ifrst and also Martirosyan in the 4th and didn't finsh either.
Also his chin must be checked,he was stunned in the 3rd by Guarras.
Overall he is a very fan friendly fghter and a deinite guy t owatch at MW,just based on style nad explosivness I think he would give Golovkin at least a fight since the Kazakh has nevr encountered adversity even though he foguht better opposition.
Must get a elite promoter,staying in France won't help conquering the MW division.

TFFP · 10-28-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cubex

After watching tape on him I must say he impressed me a lot and became my favorite between the MW prospects.
He has it all,speed(in hands,feet and body movement),power,natural ability,athleticism,great reflexes and is very entertaining.
I like that he is a offensive fighter but can also box on the backfot if needed.His left hook is a thing of beauty,the way he finished Martirosyan with it and especially Guarras reminded me of Mosley-Vargas II.
What I don't like is that he seems to lunge in alot and admire his work often times going in and straight out with his hands down and getting caught.His defensesive maneuvres thrive on his reflexes a lot.He seemes to have some defensive liabilities.
His finishing skills might also be in question since he had Guarras hurt badly in the ifrst and also Martirosyan in the 4th and didn't finsh either.
Also his chin must be checked,he was stunned in the 3rd by Guarras.
Overall he is a very fan friendly fghter and a deinite guy t owatch at MW,just based on style nad explosivness I think he would give Golovkin at least a fight since the Kazakh has nevr encountered adversity even though he foguht better opposition.
Must get a elite promoter,staying in France won't help conquering the MW division.

Agree with all that.

IntentionalButt · 10-28-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyV

What d'you make of this kid so far IB? How do you think he stacks up to the likes of Jacobs, Pirog and Golovkin at this stage?

Before I was merely an interested party, but now - after yal's excellent and generous post - officially a fan. I love the look of this kid. That's meant literally as much as anything else. Everything from his sculpted physique to his fluid movement - he just fits the part of what you'd want and expect in an ideal boxer. He's almost like a video game character, it's kind of crazy and makes it easy to get carried away with enthusiasm about his prospects (and equally puzzling and frustrating when he does silly things...). He clearly invests the time in training and it shows. I'd be shocked if his routine were much different or less intensive than PBF's, for instance.

When he's in the ring, his command is the first thing that strikes me. Even if he gets caught with a punch, he generally shrugs it off knowing he'll land on his feet and be dancing circles around his foe and breaking their ankles like a slippery point guard. His supreme confidence definitely borders on cockiness when he gets into an offensive rhythm, and he'll probably need to learn the hard way (by hitting the deck a few times) that he can't get away with certain things against top shelf talent.

There isn't a punch in the book that he can't throw not only correctly (from a technical standpoint) but brilliantly. Again, he looks like a video game character at times.

I actually don't have a huge problem with him pulling straight back, oddly enough. He's one of those guys that has the balance and agility to nearly bend over backwards, while moving his feet. The combination of kicking off with his toes to glide away from danger, while bending back at the waist, while tilting his head back pretty much guarantees his safety unless someone's got a freakish wingpsan down to their knees and lightning fast handspeed, and chases after him. Plus, after this move he usually reverts to his almost playful lateral skipping, which no MW I can think of is nimble enough to catch up with and time.

What I don't like is when he drops his hands while still in range. That's when he gets in trouble. He needs to realize that while he's faster than most everybody, he can't assume a mindset that he's untouchable.

His hook is one of the sexiest I've seen. Particularly the leaping version.

Again - video game character.

I don't think there's any doubt he's the preeminent European middleweight prospect. He could easily clear the field.

IntentionalButt · 10-28-2009, 04:05 PM

Fly, Hassan - go to CDG airport, spread your metaphorical wings, and fly!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/89...64463679f9.jpg

cubex · 10-28-2009, 05:28 PM

Also the guy has charisma.

I mean the whole dance in the Martirosyan walk in on Thriller was funny and intersting.

The Grand Tournoi final ring entrance with him and Belghacham on that truck was cool also.
He has a cockyness you kinda like.You could see his antics got to Affif Belghecham when he pushed him at the end of a round.

10-27-2009, 06:06 PM	#32
TommyV Spit That Mad Game Yo! East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South-East/Greater London. Posts: 51,672 vCash: 1987	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam What d'you make of this kid so far IB? How do you think he stacks up to the likes of Jacobs, Pirog and Golovkin at this stage?
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10-27-2009, 06:12 PM	#33
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,411 vCash: 2500	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam Thanks for the videos, yal. Been meaning to see his fight with Martiosyan.
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10-27-2009, 07:18 PM	#34
TommyV Spit That Mad Game Yo! East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South-East/Greater London. Posts: 51,672 vCash: 1987	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam The final punch that knocked Gourras out was a beaut.
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10-27-2009, 08:21 PM	#35
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,411 vCash: 2500	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam Finished watching his fight against Martirosyan. I was impressed. Overall he schooled him and got the stoppage, can't ask for more. A few small points however... He might want to be careful with the way he pulls back with his hands down after landing his shots. I know its a natural style for him, but the Armenian landed at least one hard right hand and several others narrowly missed. You just have to be careful, against a better fighter it could be a costly flaw. On a similar vein he also tends to jump in and go straight to the body without setting the shot up with even a jab. That's okay here because he had such a speed advantage and the Armenian couldn't set his feet to counter him but he gets quite square on and open. That means his balance is not perfect and he could get knocked down if not hurt. There also seemed to be a period where he hit a lull, the he let the other guy get close to him in rounds 6, 7 and 8. Martirosyan wasn't that effective but I sensed he grew in confidence a little as N'dam took his foot off the pedal. Needs to keep focused for every round, its easy to let your standards slip against a less skilled foe. Could have also taken advantage of the first knockdown a little better, he got wild and carried away. If he just fought like he had been he could have scored the KO there and then. These are very minor critiques overall, I praise his jab which was very sharp and effective, his output is extremely good in quality and volume. Jab/right hand/body work/uppercut and his real power punch seems to be the left hook which is a beauty. He's also unpredictable, he can lead with any of these punches. His stamina seemed to never end. And really for me his defining quality is how light he is on his feet. He moves exceptionally well, he's a great athlete no doubt.
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10-27-2009, 08:26 PM	#36
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,411 vCash: 2500	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam As a further point I can also fully believe he gives a lot of German based fighters a world of trouble in sparring. It's not difficult to imagine because he's such a good mover, whereas some of those boys are quite static fighters.
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10-28-2009, 02:18 PM	#41
cubex RIP Thunder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,036 vCash: 2610	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam After watching tape on him I must say he impressed me a lot and became my favorite between the MW prospects. He has it all,speed(in hands,feet and body movement),power,natural ability,athleticism,great reflexes and is very entertaining. I like that he is a offensive fighter but can also box on the backfot if needed.His left hook is a thing of beauty,the way he finished Martirosyan with it and especially Guarras reminded me of Mosley-Vargas II. What I don't like is that he seems to lunge in alot and admire his work often times going in and straight out with his hands down and getting caught.His defensesive maneuvres thrive on his reflexes a lot.He seemes to have some defensive liabilities. His finishing skills might also be in question since he had Guarras hurt badly in the ifrst and also Martirosyan in the 4th and didn't finsh either. Also his chin must be checked,he was stunned in the 3rd by Guarras. Overall he is a very fan friendly fghter and a deinite guy t owatch at MW,just based on style nad explosivness I think he would give Golovkin at least a fight since the Kazakh has nevr encountered adversity even though he foguht better opposition. Must get a elite promoter,staying in France won't help conquering the MW division.
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10-28-2009, 04:05 PM	#44
IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,328 vCash: 0	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam Fly, Hassan - go to CDG airport, spread your metaphorical wings, and fly! http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/89...64463679f9.jpg
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10-28-2009, 05:28 PM	#45
cubex RIP Thunder ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 4,036 vCash: 2610	Re: Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam Also the guy has charisma. I mean the whole dance in the Martirosyan walk in on Thriller was funny and intersting. The Grand Tournoi final ring entrance with him and Belghacham on that truck was cool also. He has a cockyness you kinda like.You could see his antics got to Affif Belghecham when he pushed him at the end of a round.
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