pavlik v taylor fight overrated?

philip_jp · 10-01-2007, 05:55 AM

It was a fun fight for sure. But just because pavlik got caught ? even the best fighter get caught sometimes like fedor by fujita doesnt mean its one of the great fights in middleweight history like people are saying. I consider a fight to go down as a classic when u have two great fighters making it a classic do anyone consider taylor great when he has shown little improvement in his skills in his last fights? I saw taylor getting out jabbed and pavlik hitting him almost at will while pavlik was doing a good job on defense for his style until the one punch that almost gotem. I saw pavlik winning easy

Doomas · 10-01-2007, 06:20 AM

I saw Taylors head snap back alot in that fight by jab, and I think it was the main reason why Taylor eventualy lost, that first right hand landed nicely on the chin becouse it was set up with jab. Great fight and IMO its a FOTY material.
Pavilk proved hes a great puncher but I still see some gaps in his style.
168 guys will give him trouble for sure unless Pavilk will manage to improve his footwork.

philip_jp · 10-01-2007, 07:04 AM

after watching the second round kd in slow mo it seems kelly was trying to taunt taylor after the elbow taylor threw, so im guessing kelly was just stunned at first but was still doing a good job of defending himself and still there mentally and physically. BUt he was trying to showboat or something and put he defense down and got caught with a jab that stunned him then a left right power combo that put him down.

seems he forgot how fast taylor is when he put his defense down for a moment

scurlaruntings · 10-01-2007, 08:01 AM

It was a very good and entertaining fight but it was certainly not up there with the best middleweight fights ever or even close to Hagler Hearns. Hagler Hearns was just pure brutality and carnage. Unfortunately for Taylor he was worn down and didnt capitalise on when he hurt Pavlik nor did he take a count when he was hurt and simply took licks like Frank Bruno would.

SteveO · 10-01-2007, 08:28 AM

Good fight to watch. Not a blowout, not boring decision. And we all like it when the underdog climbs off the floor to win.

Unless you're a Taylor fan.

FlatNose · 10-01-2007, 08:33 AM

When the underdog gets floored and almost knocked out, gets up and scores a conclusive knockout in a fight that was competitive all the way with both guys undefeated and fighting for a undisputed world title, its a classic.

booklord · 10-01-2007, 08:37 AM

Fight had both fighters tasting canvas. Check.
Fight could have gone the other way. Double Check.
Fight had multiple close rounds. Check.
Fight had a fighter showing tremendous heart. Check.
Fight had two boxers throwing a lot of punches. Check.

The only drawback I can think of in this fight is that when Pavlik's jabs started breaking down Taylor's defense in the 7th round leaving him open to some brutal power shots, Taylor didn't last very long.

Best fight I've seen all year.

10-01-2007, 08:48 AM

good fight both fighters took some good shots.but pavlik will prevail again when he claims in the ring agains't taylor.

RUSKULL · 10-01-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by booklord

Fight had both fighters tasting canvas. Check.
Fight could have gone the other way. Double Check.
Fight had multiple close rounds. Check.
Fight had a fighter showing tremendous heart. Check.
Fight had two boxers throwing a lot of punches. Check.

The only drawback I can think of in this fight is that when Pavlik's jabs started breaking down Taylor's defense in the 7th round leaving him open to some brutal power shots, Taylor didn't last very long.

Best fight I've seen all year.

I agree with the post. HBO has been showing the fight a lot & I've rewatched four times & I'll probably watch it again tonight if it's on. It was a good fight for sure.

liljp361 · 10-01-2007, 09:32 AM

no it was a very good fight. rarely do u get that great of a fight between an undefeated number 1 contender and an undefeated champion. it was a very dramatic victory for pavlik and IMO every round was a good round.

Ivo · 10-01-2007, 10:04 AM

I do not think it was overrated. Two undefeated fighters, one who dethroned a long time reigning champion like Hopkins, the other - KO artist.

10-01-2007, 05:55 AM	#1
philip_jp newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7 vCash: 1000	pavlik v taylor fight overrated? It was a fun fight for sure. But just because pavlik got caught ? even the best fighter get caught sometimes like fedor by fujita doesnt mean its one of the great fights in middleweight history like people are saying. I consider a fight to go down as a classic when u have two great fighters making it a classic do anyone consider taylor great when he has shown little improvement in his skills in his last fights? I saw taylor getting out jabbed and pavlik hitting him almost at will while pavlik was doing a good job on defense for his style until the one punch that almost gotem. I saw pavlik winning easy
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10-01-2007, 06:20 AM	#2
Doomas Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lithuania Posts: 422 vCash: 680	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? I saw Taylors head snap back alot in that fight by jab, and I think it was the main reason why Taylor eventualy lost, that first right hand landed nicely on the chin becouse it was set up with jab. Great fight and IMO its a FOTY material. Pavilk proved hes a great puncher but I still see some gaps in his style. 168 guys will give him trouble for sure unless Pavilk will manage to improve his footwork.
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10-01-2007, 07:04 AM	#3
philip_jp newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 7 vCash: 1000	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? after watching the second round kd in slow mo it seems kelly was trying to taunt taylor after the elbow taylor threw, so im guessing kelly was just stunned at first but was still doing a good job of defending himself and still there mentally and physically. BUt he was trying to showboat or something and put he defense down and got caught with a jab that stunned him then a left right power combo that put him down. seems he forgot how fast taylor is when he put his defense down for a moment
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10-01-2007, 08:01 AM	#4
scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By any means necessary Posts: 17,817 vCash: 1000	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? It was a very good and entertaining fight but it was certainly not up there with the best middleweight fights ever or even close to Hagler Hearns. Hagler Hearns was just pure brutality and carnage. Unfortunately for Taylor he was worn down and didnt capitalise on when he hurt Pavlik nor did he take a count when he was hurt and simply took licks like Frank Bruno would.
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10-01-2007, 08:28 AM	#5
SteveO MSW ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,125 vCash: 1040	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? Good fight to watch. Not a blowout, not boring decision. And we all like it when the underdog climbs off the floor to win. Unless you're a Taylor fan.
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10-01-2007, 08:33 AM	#6
FlatNose Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,406 vCash: 1000	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? When the underdog gets floored and almost knocked out, gets up and scores a conclusive knockout in a fight that was competitive all the way with both guys undefeated and fighting for a undisputed world title, its a classic.
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10-01-2007, 08:37 AM	#7
booklord Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 270 vCash: 1000	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? Fight had both fighters tasting canvas. Check. Fight could have gone the other way. Double Check. Fight had multiple close rounds. Check. Fight had a fighter showing tremendous heart. Check. Fight had two boxers throwing a lot of punches. Check. The only drawback I can think of in this fight is that when Pavlik's jabs started breaking down Taylor's defense in the 7th round leaving him open to some brutal power shots, Taylor didn't last very long. Best fight I've seen all year.
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10-01-2007, 08:48 AM	#8
littleeagle2boo Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? good fight both fighters took some good shots.but pavlik will prevail again when he claims in the ring agains't taylor.
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10-01-2007, 09:32 AM	#10
liljp361 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,544 vCash: 1000	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? no it was a very good fight. rarely do u get that great of a fight between an undefeated number 1 contender and an undefeated champion. it was a very dramatic victory for pavlik and IMO every round was a good round.
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10-01-2007, 10:04 AM	#11
Ivo Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 2,380 vCash: 1151	Re: pavlik v taylor fight overrated? I do not think it was overrated. Two undefeated fighters, one who dethroned a long time reigning champion like Hopkins, the other - KO artist.
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