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Old 09-23-2007, 12:54 AM   #31
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Kosta was a great fighter but I wouldn't call him the best P4P of all time. I give that distinction to the old Roberto Duran when he was a lightweight.
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Old 09-23-2007, 01:19 AM   #32
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Quote:
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what you missed the vince philips fight

You must have missed him going undefeated for a decade following that fight, beating some very good fighters, and unifying the division.
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:54 AM   #33
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you havent followed boxing for long have you? kostya in his prime would crush floyd he loved chasing down feather fisted fairys like floyd and crushing them.
Guys who get knocked the **** out on there feet by journeyman like Vince Phillips can never or will never be put over top of Floyd Mayweather.....dumb asss a doyyy... a duhhh
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:21 PM   #34
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what does that make vince phillips then
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:50 AM   #35
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I'm not sure ... but I think the Angelo Dundee comment was actually a statement he made after seeing Tszyu as an amateur. He said an amateur Tszyu was the best boxer he had ever seen.

I don't think the statement was regarding Tszyu's professional career.

And Tszyu had a chance against anyone. He NEVER had problems with boxers or speed. If you let him set his feet you were in trouble. The guys that gave Tszyu hard fights like Lopez, Urkal, Phillips and Hatton all came forward and kept Tszyu backpedalling. Both losses were still competitive. Mayweather doesn't have that style. He would give Tszyu ever chance to pick and choose his shots which never ended well for the boxers Tszyu faced.

It's a 50/50 fight but I lean towards Tszyu. I've seen all his fights and he was never outboxed.
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Old 10-01-2007, 08:28 AM   #36
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Kosta was never a hype job and hardly had a chance to be in the mega fight! That reflects on his achievements in a negative way. He shouldn't have lost to Phillips I guess.

Both DLH and Mosley skipped 140lb, these two fights would make Kosta an ATG. Kosta would definitely beat Mosley and would have a good chance at DLH.

As of Mayweather fight all indicators point at Kosta's relatively easy win. He's always done well against cuties.
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:06 AM   #37
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Both PBF and KT are/were great, great fighters but neither are anywhere near the best of all time.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:06 AM   #38
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Kostya was overrated he never beat anybody great and got knocked out by Vince Phillips. He never could fight anybody who pressured him(Phillips and Hatton). Aaron Pryor and Julio Cesar Chavez would kill him in there primes.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:12 AM   #39
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Based on resume I dont think you can make a case for Kostya over PBF. Head2head however maybe different. The 2 biggest names that Floyd beat were LW's, considering Kostya is a LWW it may seem less relevant when comparing head2head, I do believe Kostya would have crushed Corrales & Castillo much easier than Floyd did. Would have been a great fight and it probably would have been 60/40 in PBF favour at their primes at 140lb. Shame they never met.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:18 AM   #40
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i take it there is no one here who actually believes he's the best p4p ever?
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:19 AM   #41
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I believe he is top 20 possibly top 10 ever.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:24 AM   #42
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He was a great fighter but losing to phillips an having nut job judah and mitchell as your big wins doesn't put you anywhere near the top 20 p4p fighters of all time tis is a joke.
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