Joe Calzaghe vs. Ezzard Charles - Page 3

Grinder · 11-23-2009, 04:21 PM

Calzaghe retired undefeated, but Charles beats almost any man below the HW limit.

McGrain · 11-23-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tin_Ribs

No, sorry. I'll give him credit where credit is due, but he isn't beating Conn, the man never lost a fight as a light heavy in an era that was stacked with top fighters.

I think Conn is underated head to head. Guy was a demon.

Hank · 11-24-2009, 12:43 AM

Poll i sunfair to Calzaghe. It's like asking if Pacquio could beat Monzon. Keep going in this direcction and we'll wind up with Willy Pep vs. Primo Canera.

Flea Man · 11-24-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank

Poll i sunfair to Calzaghe. It's like asking if Pacquio could beat Monzon. Keep going in this direcction and we'll wind up with Willy Pep vs. Primo Canera.

No its not. This isn't an issue of size, it's an issue of superior attributes; Calzaghe has none against Charles.

Tin_Ribs · 11-24-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

I think Conn is underated head to head. Guy was a demon.

Yeah, he is and was on both counts. Other than not having a true KO punch, he was a bloody marvel. Talk about being thrown in at the deep end aswell at the start of his career and his subsequent record (I refuse to use the word 'resume')

. Krieger, Young Corbett III, Apostoli, Yarosz, Bettina, Lesnevich, Zivic, Risko, Dundee, Pastor, Savold etc etc. And a knats knacker away from beating maybe the greatest heavyweight of time.

Conn vs Charles would've made more sense.

dublynflya · 11-24-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cachibatches

I like Calzaghe, but lets be clear about something- Charles is a candiate for being pfp the best- a middle who won the heavyeight championship, beat Archie Moore three times, and beat scores of ATG and HOL fighters.

I give Calzaghe all the props he deserves, but its not close.

I couldn't agree more. Well put!!

dublynflya · 11-24-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Shake

So far Calzaghe has been up against Qawi, Billy Conn and now Ezzard Charles.

Unsurprisingly he has not managed to win a single one or even do that well, but should he continue along this route he'll surely record one of the best resumes of all-time.

Edit: Oh, and Charles knocks him out, surely.

Joe wants to be considered one of the greats so he (I'm sure) expects people like us to consider him in these fantasy fights. The fact that he hasn't fared too well thus far is predictable. He WAS a tremendous champion (And his career will be viewed more favourably in the passage of time) but he was never as good as he believed he was and I believe that (For whatever reason) we never truly saw the best of him. That is what is so damned frustrating about Joe Calzaghe!!! And I can't be the only one who thinks this, surely? As for him fighting Charles, well I have to bow to reason! Charles by mid round ko.

teeto · 11-24-2009, 05:21 PM

The major factor imo here is that Charles is comfortable fighting at the advanced pace Calzaghe likes to set.

Polymath · 11-24-2009, 06:36 PM

Calzaghe by modern nutrition and sports science.

teeto · 11-24-2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Polymath

Calzaghe by modern nutrition and sports science.

Gay

TBooze · 11-24-2009, 06:46 PM

Charles is at a different level, but Joe is no mug, and is cute and tough enough to go the distance, maybe even sneaking a few rounds.

Charles WU15 (11-4)

Body Head · 11-24-2009, 06:54 PM

Polymath · 11-24-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by teeto

Gay

How do u mean

teeto · 11-24-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Polymath

How do u mean

I was only kidding with that post. I don't agree though.

Polymath · 11-24-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by teeto

I was only kidding with that post. I don't agree though.

its ridiculous to overlook the advantages a modern fighter (especially just being bigger) has while pointing out the disadvantages.

View Poll Results: Who wins?
Calzaghe by KO/TKO	3	5.17%
Calzaghe by decision	1	1.72%
Draw	0	0%
Charles by KO/TKO	43	74.14%
Charles by decision	11	18.97%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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