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Old 11-27-2009, 03:01 AM   #16
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Don't feel Carbajal vs Chiquita is a valid example, they both had dentable chins but big hearts, and could both bang (though Carbajal was the bigger puncher IMO)
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:18 AM   #17
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Don't feel Carbajal vs Chiquita is a valid example, they both had dentable chins but big hearts, and could both bang (though Carbajal was the bigger puncher IMO)
NO WAY!! CARBAJAL HAD A BIG TIME CHIN ONLY CHIQUITA EVER PUT HIM DOWN AND HE FOUGHT SOME BIG PUNCHERS ARCE,KITTIKASEM,PASTRANA,OLSON WERE ALL BIG PUNCHERS AND NEITHER OF THEM EVER REALLY HURT CARBAJAL . REMEMBER CHIQUITA WAS A REGARDED AS ONE OF THE BEST PFP PUNCHERS IN BOXING AT ONE TIME AND FOR THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIRST FIGHT NEVER HURT CARBAJAL AGAIN. THE BABY JAKE STOPPAGE WAS AN ACCUMALATION OF SHOTS,CARBAJAL WAS NEVER HURT ,HE WAS JUST TAKING A NON STOP ATTACK FROM MATALALA.
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:34 AM   #18
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Not convinced Chiquita had a terrible chin, that's all
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:02 AM   #19
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Not convinced Chiquita had a terrible chin, that's all
Maybe I was reaching you made a decent point Although he did get KO"d a few times. I notice you had no response to my opinion on carbajal. I think Carbajal had one of the best chins ever. When talking about the fighters in the lighter divisions.
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:53 AM   #20
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Eh? Mugabi soaked up some absolutely whopping punishment before the stoppage - which was because he had nothing left, not because his chin didn't hold up.
Plus he damaged his hand early in the fight.
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:06 AM   #21
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Maybe I was reaching you made a decent point Although he did get KO"d a few times. I notice you had no response to my opinion on carbajal. I think Carbajal had one of the best chins ever. When talking about the fighters in the lighter divisions.
Thats because I didn't disagree with your opinions on Carbajal. I'm a massive fan of his
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:16 AM   #22
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G-Man vs Julian Jackson
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:17 AM   #23
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Carbajal had anything but a shaky chin.
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:25 AM   #24
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Jphnny Lira vs. Andy Ganigan
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:38 AM   #25
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Bazooka Limon vs Rolondo Navarette
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Old 11-27-2009, 07:41 AM   #26
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i WAS THINKING ABOUT mUGABI RECENTLY.

(OOPS, CAPS)

Did Hagler ruin him? Did subsequent drops back to 154 (the Norris blowout comes to mind) leave him with nothing left? Just surprised at how easy he was to blow away (McClellan did as well) post-Hagler, even though he looked sturdy in that fight.

I guess his psyche was gone after he was undefeated.
Yeah, he lost something in that fight most probably. I guess he was a bit unsure of himself thereafter, and didn't get past the 3rd round in his next fight against Duane Thomas when it appeared that he was thumbed. That might have crushed his confidence further.
But I dont know what he was doing outside of the ring. I heard he lost a lot of money gambling, and maybe he drank, maybe drugs, maybe just slacked off physically and mentally, maybe had other life distractions. It all adds up, and can further decrease durability.
Norris and McClellan were hungry young fighters. And good punchers.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:09 AM   #27
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G-Man vs Julian Jackson
What I didn't know is that Jackson was coming off double retina surgery and apparently was nigh on blind around that time.

G-Man was nothing special IMO, though that's another thread entirely
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:23 AM   #28
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Mike McCallum against Julian Jackson. I don't think Jackson's chin was bad, it was okay, but certainly levels below Mike's chin.

Ray Mercer against Tommy Morrison.
Yep, Mercer Vs Morrison was the first that came to mind for me.
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Eubank and Benn.
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