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Old 12-26-2009, 06:58 AM   #1
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Default Blood vs. urine? USADA clears up fuss over Mayweather-Pacquiao drug testing feud

Some official statements for you to read:

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concerning urin and blood tests:

Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean. "There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.”

the schedule:

Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested. “That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.”
Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position. “The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage.“

the influence of taking blood:

Victor Conte, the founder of Bay-Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter. “That amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” Conte told Yahoo! Sports. “It’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.”
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:00 AM   #2
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"But if the Nevada Commission was doing it, then we would agree to do as many tests as they wanted to do -- urine and blood -- up to a certain date to be agreed upon," said Arum.


"The Nevada Commission will do it appropriately. That's terrific," said Arum. "In other words, we wouldn't limit it to a certain number of tests because we know that the Nevada Commission won't harass the fighters. "


"And then, the commission would then take it from there, and hold random urinalysis and random blood tests."


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Old 12-26-2009, 07:06 AM   #3
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"...because we know that the Nevada Commission won't harass the fighters. "

Yeah, they know this Nevada Comission lets cheaters go through. They seem to have made good experiences in the past. Suddenly blood tests right before the fight don't matter, it's the bad USADA comission which does proper tests.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:11 AM   #4
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it's the bad USADA comission which does proper tests.
How would you know? Because Leonard Ellerbe said so?
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:19 AM   #5
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How do you know USADA is harassing fighters, because Bob Arum said so? He already disqualified himself by saying that urin tests are sufficient to detect all types of forbidden substances. Obviously it isn't as you can read in the first quote.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:33 AM   #6
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Nobody with a sane mind can see what pac and his camp are doing and not come to conclusion that pac has something to hide. His reputation already destroyed what a ****ing loser.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:37 AM   #7
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If ur not guilty what's the problem?
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:41 AM   #8
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If ur not guilty what's the problem?
We still haven't heard anything close to a reasonable excuse.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:44 AM   #9
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There's no reasonable excuse for a closed minded individual. Pac already stated his reasons.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:52 AM   #10
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If ur not guilty what's the problem?
This line of reasoning is ridiculous. It has always been the case that the accuser has to prove the other persons guild not the accused has to prove his innocence. I mean does Mayweather have any indication that Pac is using PEDs, if not then why bother using more stringent testing. There isn't even really any type of evidence besides he has boxed well. So should we look with suspicion at every boxer who as ever fought well? Obviously not you use more stringent test if you have some credible reason to believe that he is cheating current testing practices.
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Old 12-26-2009, 07:58 AM   #11
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There's no reasonable excuse for a closed minded individual. Pac already stated his reasons.
If Manny came out and said that dog shit was delicious and nutritious you'd eat it for breakfast, lunch & ****ing dinner every god damn day, so you might want to shut the **** up.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:00 AM   #12
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If Manny came out and said that dog shit was delicious and nutritious you'd eat it for breakfast, lunch & ****ing dinner every god damn day, so you might want to shut the **** up.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:11 AM   #13
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This line of reasoning is ridiculous. It has always been the case that the accuser has to prove the other persons guild not the accused has to prove his innocence. I mean does Mayweather have any indication that Pac is using PEDs, if not then why bother using more stringent testing. There isn't even really any type of evidence besides he has boxed well. So should we look with suspicion at every boxer who as ever fought well? Obviously not you use more stringent test if you have some credible reason to believe that he is cheating current testing practices.

Ok let me put it this way , With $40,000,000 at stake WHAT'S THE ****IN PROBLEM?

now is that better. is that a little less ridiculous?
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:22 AM   #14
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Still no proof Pac has ever cheated.
Mayweather & Pacquiao are boxers. Nowhere in the rules of boxing does it say U need to have Olympic style drug tests. Stick to the rules you've used your entire careers.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:25 AM   #15
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Ok let me put it this way , With $40,000,000 at stake WHAT'S THE ****IN PROBLEM?

now is that better. is that a little less ridiculous?
Pacquiao is already RICH! U think this is about money? ..well let me put it this way.. If Pacquiao is an EASY FIGHT, WHY ALL THE BULLSHIT DEMANDS?!?... EASY... FLOYD is QUACK QUACK

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