"Pitched battle" at York Hall - Page 6

Mazallan · 03-01-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ero-sennin

This is how I understand it. "Gypsy" was originally used to refer to the Romani people, who are descended from Northern India. These days you got mother****ers who can't differentiate between Romani and other travellers including Irish. So they see some Irish travellers and start calling them gypsies too. The **** have Irish travellers got to do with Romani people? Is there some kind of connection? I genuinely don't know man, Icemax, help me out. So anyway, because people just start using that term "gypsy", it now refers to any travellers and not just the Romani people?

And aren't the Romani people mostly living in Eastern Europe anyway? Not many of them in the UK right?

And what the **** is a pikey man?

Icemax, school is in session, you gotta lay it down for us, here on this thread so these fools know. I mean, at least I did a bit of research on this shit, I'm like the ideal student but I gotta get it verified by someone who knows what the **** they talking about.

I was confused cuz I was like "what the **** Irish travellers gotta do with some dudes who originated in Northern India and are now mostly living in Eastern Europe, apart from maybe they both like travelling?"

Gypsy is just the term used to call any traveller. Not always used as a derogatory.

Dont go all gay on the thread.

'Pikey' is a very offensive term. Not as bad as ****ney though.

icemax · 03-01-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ero-sennin

This is how I understand it. "Gypsy" was originally used to refer to the Romani people, who are descended from Northern India. These days you got mother****ers who can't differentiate between Romani and other travellers including Irish. So they see some Irish travellers and start calling them gypsies too. The **** have Irish travellers got to do with Romani people? Is there some kind of connection? I genuinely don't know man, Icemax, help me out. So anyway, because people just start using that term "gypsy", it now refers to any travellers and not just the Romani people?

And aren't the Romani people mostly living in Eastern Europe anyway? Not many of them in the UK right?

And what the **** is a pikey man?

Icemax, school is in session, you gotta lay it down for us, here on this thread so these fools know. I mean, at least I did a bit of research on this shit, I'm like the ideal student but I gotta get it verified by someone who knows what the **** they talking about.

I was confused cuz I was like "what the **** Irish travellers gotta do with some dudes who originated in Northern India and are now mostly living in Eastern Europe, apart from maybe they both like travelling?"

You don't need any help, you just about got it spot on.

As Maz pointed out a Pikey is a very offensive word sort of the gypsy equivalent of calling a black guy the n word. In Romany law a pikey is someone who has committed a heinous offence against the group (rape, murder, robbing from his own) and has been cast out of the family group...unfortunately some Roma (my dad included

) call Irish Travelers Pikeys which isn't helpful.

There are not many Roma on the roads in Britain any more, the vast majority live in fixed locations...and the ones that are mobile can be differentiated from other travelers by the conditions in which they live, a real Romany would not live in the same shitty set up that some of the Irish Travelers do.

Maz, sorry to hear about your banning

ero-sennin · 03-01-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by icemax

You don't need any help, you just about got it spot on.

As Maz pointed out a Pikey is a very offensive word sort of the gypsy equivalent of calling a black guy the n word. In Romany law a pikey is someone who has committed a heinous offence against the group (rape, murder, robbing from his own) and has been cast out of the family group...unfortunately some Roma (my dad included

) call Irish Travelers Pikeys which isn't helpful.

There are not many Roma on the roads in Britain any more, the vast majority live in fixed locations...and the ones that are mobile can be differentiated from other travelers by the conditions in which they live, a real Romany would not live in the same shitty set up that some of the Irish Travelers do.

Maz, sorry to hear about your banning

Ahh I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

Dan684 · 03-01-2010, 02:55 PM

Basically, a pikey is a pikey

icemax · 03-01-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan684

Rightly so as well Saturday Kid. I wouldn't want my pub being over run by Pikey Cunts

I never thought that it was possible to meet a bigger wind-up merchant than me, and then your ginger crust honed into view

Dan684 · 03-01-2010, 03:13 PM

What ??

slapbangwhallop · 03-01-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by icemax

You don't need any help, you just about got it spot on.

As Maz pointed out a Pikey is a very offensive word sort of the gypsy equivalent of calling a black guy the n word. In Romany law a pikey is someone who has committed a heinous offence against the group (rape, murder, robbing from his own) and has been cast out of the family group...unfortunately some Roma (my dad included

) call Irish Travelers Pikeys which isn't helpful.

There are not many Roma on the roads in Britain any more, the vast majority live in fixed locations...and the ones that are mobile can be differentiated from other travelers by the conditions in which they live, a real Romany would not live in the same shitty set up that some of the Irish Travelers do.

Maz, sorry to hear about your banning

A Yorkshire, Romany, squaddie!!! Not many more boxes left to tick!!

Arnt the Irish travellers on the road because of the British??

See ye caused that as well!!!

Dan684 · 03-01-2010, 04:05 PM

And now another 'Mr Argumentative' comes aboard the thread

themacallan · 03-01-2010, 10:07 PM

So.

Romani = gypos
Irish Travelers who have been naughty boys = Pikeys.

icemax · 03-02-2010, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by icemax

I never thought that it was possible to meet a bigger wind-up merchant than me, and then your ginger crust honed into view

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Originally Posted by slapbangwhallop

A Yorkshire, Romany, squaddie!!! Not many more boxes left to tick!!

Arnt the Irish travellers on the road because of the British??

See ye caused that as well!!!

Sorry Dan, my mistake

Mazallan · 03-02-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by icemax

Maz, sorry to hear about your banning

The ban did not bother me too much. Just did not like feeling like I had offended people on this subject....my comments were pretty twatish though.

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03-01-2010, 10:07 PM	#84
themacallan Chin Chin ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Slurpacockski is SERBIAN GRASS Posts: 282 vCash: 500	Re: "Pitched battle" at York Hall So. Romani = gypos Irish Travelers who have been naughty boys = Pikeys.
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