Barney Ross vs Floyd Mayweather/ Winner?

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Sounds like an EXCUSE to me.

Question: Why do you have that picture as your avatar?

Not really, landing rights/hooks is harder than landing jabs, leading with it and landing harder still, if you are good enough to lead and land, it makes the lesser set up punch, the jab, somewhat redundant. Mayweather dominated with the jab against Marquez, and its fast, sharp accurate, snappy jab. He just doesnt need the ab as much as others

I'm a fan of Benn and that fight, despite its tragic end, the fight was a gift from both fighters to the sport. Thought that pic captured the fight pretty well

[Rise Above]

I've said this before but you cant do these kind of mythical matchups. Its better to compare guys of differing eras based on opposition fought (resume) and titles held etc.

There have been too many advancements in nutrition, training and general boxing technique to properly asess who would win a fight like this.

[teeto]

Speculation about how a fighter fights in a particular fight is utter bullshit, you fight how you do on the night and that is what is documented in history, end of fuckin story. The favouritism/bias on this board is really pissing me off now, bastard pots are calling the kettle black.

[Stonehands89]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Not really, landing rights/hooks is harder than landing jabs, leading with it and landing harder still, if you are good enough to lead and land, it makes the lesser set up punch, the jab, somewhat redundant. Mayweather dominated with the jab against Marquez, and its fast, sharp accurate, snappy jab. He just doesnt need the ab as much as others

Muhammad Ali on golf. "I'm the best. I just haven't played yet."

He was kidding. You're not.

[Addie]

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Muhammad Ali on golf. "I'm the best. I just haven't played yet."

He was kidding. You're not.

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Muhammad Ali on golf. "I'm the best. I just haven't played yet."

He was kidding. You're not.

Yes because thats the same with FMJ never throwing a jab despite the fac he dominated JMM for 12 with mainly the jab alone But you're a Robertard who doesnt even know when/why his fave fighter left LW FFS

[Stonehands89]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Yes because thats the same with FMJ never throwing a jab despite the fac he dominated JMM for 12 with mainly the jab alone But you're a Robertard who doesnt even know when/why his fave fighter left LW FFS

Yep, that's me. A Robertard.

Good luck!

[My2Sense]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Mayweather threw 40-60 a round against Hatton

That fight didn't go more than 10 rounds, let alone 15 or even 12.

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

He folded like a stack of cards against the 1 true pressure fighter in Armstrong.

Guess you've never heard of Battling Battalino, Sammy Fuller, or Ray Miller then.

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

So clearly he handles workrate/intensity worse than Floyd

Only if you somehow think Chavez or Hatton are somehow comparable to Armstrong.

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Floyds jab is faster and mor accurate with more snap.

His jab is clearly not "more accurate," in fact he often falls short with it when he aims for the head.

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

When Floyd concentrates on the jab he dominates with it: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

No, when he concentrates on the jab he allows Marquez to get up his nerve and go at him, and even drive him to the ropes or sneak in some overhand rights on occasion. It's only when he opens up with hooks that he dominates by dropping Marquez and getting his respect.

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Mayweather does everything better than Ross

Not according to you. Your argument has been that he's capable of doing things as well as Ross, but chooses not to actually do them as well as him.

[My2Sense]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Not really, landing rights/hooks is harder than landing jabs, leading with it and landing harder still, if you are good enough to lead and land, it makes the lesser set up punch, the jab, somewhat redundant.

So now you're claiming Mayweather deliberately chooses to do something that's "harder" even though he's capable of winning fights an easier way? That undermines your earlier claim that Mayweather looks to make fights as easy and slow-paced as possible.

[My2Sense]

Originally Posted by teeto

Speculation about how a fighter fights in a particular fight is utter bullshit, you fight how you do on the night and that is what is documented in history, end of fuckin story.

Exactly.

You could just as well claim Ross is really a hard puncher and can KO guys, but "chooses" to limit himself to jabs and quick flurries instead.

[anarci]

Floyd competetive but comfortable decision 9-6-1

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by My2Sense

So now you're claiming Mayweather deliberately chooses to do something that's "harder" even though he's capable of winning fights an easier way? That undermines your earlier claim that Mayweather looks to make fights as easy and slow-paced as possible.

You really don't know boxing Landing lead hooks/rights takes more skill and speed than leading with a jab. Anyone who's boxed a handful of times knows that, the fact you don't shows your not worthy of debate. If you can do it without being hit, it isnt a high risk, Mayweather is cautious but can stll land lead rights/hooks. Few fighters can do this without being hit because they arent as skillfull

I wont bother responding to your other worthless post, you've clearly just displayed that you don't know boxing

[bodhi]

Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

You really don't know boxing Landing lead hooks/rights takes more skill and speed than leading with a jab. Anyone who's boxed a handful of times knows that, the fact you don't shows your not worthy of debate. If you can do it without being hit, it isnt a high risk, Mayweather is cautious but can stll land lead rights/hooks. Few fighters can do this without being hit because they arent as skillfull

I wont bother responding to your other worthless post, you've clearly just displayed that you don't know boxing

That's such a great argument! I really, really appreciate your debating skills

[PowerPuncher]

Originally Posted by bodhi

That's such a great argument! I really, really appreciate your debating skills

I notice you didn't look at 'why he doesn't know boxing', its pretty apparent to anyone thats boxed, but then again you haven't so it probably went over your head.

Not knowing a lead right is harder to land than a jab

[WhataRock]

Id take Mayweather but PowerPuncher you have to be kidding yourself man. Your credentials on just about any subject to do with this sport have been dismal at best for as long as I remember, even if you somehow believe they are not.

"I know just about every contender of the last 30 years but Ive never heard of Bones Adams"