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Old 03-21-2010, 10:12 PM   #16
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(didn't actually check who it was that put it up - but whoever it was has been sitting on it for longer than he should have - or maybe just didn't realise how important a peice of footage he had on his hands??
Check the name of the channel.
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:26 AM   #17
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Thanks for posting ...Moore was a mongoose indeed, crafty but a good fight.....Moore was incredible....Nino showed heart...I dont think he has any chance if he fought Marciano but it would have been exciting for a while.
Never saw this one. Thanks Rockysplitnose!

Valdes wasn't always courageous. I have his full fight with Satterfield, and he takes the easy way out and goes for the distance instead of trying to win. Here Valdes showed heart. I tend to think Valdes was a bit lazy with his jab, and had a so-so type of defense. Marciano would have been all over Valdes. Marciano did not have the skills or accuracy of Moore though. It would have been a good fight, but I see Rocky winning late via TKO.

Moore looked great here. Anyone have Valdes win over Chalres?
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:25 PM   #18
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Thanks for posting ...Moore was a mongoose indeed, crafty but a good fight.....Moore was incredible....Nino showed heart...I dont think he has any chance if he fought Marciano but it would have been exciting for a while.
There is no doubt that Moore ws an exceptional fighter ... at this point speed was a much bigger handicap than power as he was pot shotting the much slower Valdez at will ... I cannot imagine Nino taking too many of those shots from Rocky and lasting too long ... now that I see Valdez footage the biggest loss we have from not having a Marciano/Valdez match up is a great Marciano highlight reel KO ..
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:02 PM   #20
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Great footage ...

Valdez sure fought small ... if he fought that style v.s. Marciano I can not see it going long ...Rocky would have destroyed him ,.,,


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Old 06-28-2014, 09:06 PM   #21
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There is no doubt that Moore ws an exceptional fighter ... at this point speed was a much bigger handicap than power as he was pot shotting the much slower Valdez at will ... I cannot imagine Nino taking too many of those shots from Rocky and lasting too long ... now that I see Valdez footage the biggest loss we have from not having a Marciano/Valdez match up is a great Marciano highlight reel KO ..
interesting.
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:47 PM   #22
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I thought you said Marciano chose to "Older shopworn easier opponent" Ezzard Charles over the "Younger, bigger, powerful, and more dangerous" Valdes?
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Old 06-29-2014, 12:56 PM   #23
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Moore looked really good in this fight, proving that a really good small man can beat a good big man. Moore was just special. He had the speed, power, offensive and defensive skill, and ring generalship to beat a 30-pound bigger (180 vs. 209.5) man like Valdes.
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