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Old 04-03-2010, 04:34 AM   #16
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If the opponent is indeed a highly ranked opponent within the rankings then for once I believe that the vacant title thingy can be overlooked. Choc against a top 2-5 opponent? Worth overlooking a few other points for....
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:44 AM   #17
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If the opponent is indeed a highly ranked opponent within the rankings then for once I believe that the vacant title thingy can be overlooked. Choc against a top 2-5 opponent? Worth overlooking a few other points for....
One worm has turned already, join him haters.

WBA baby!!!
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:45 AM   #18
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If the opponent is indeed a highly ranked opponent within the rankings then for once I believe that the vacant title thingy can be overlooked. Choc against a top 2-5 opponent? Worth overlooking a few other points for....

thats a big IF smutt
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:14 AM   #19
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Anthony's opponent will just be ANOTHER let down.
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:57 PM   #20
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I might list the top 15...forgive my spelling

# 1 Choc
# 2 Glovkin
# 3 Hassem
# 4 Gevor
# 5 Kurtsize
# 6 Jackobs
# 9 Macklin

cant be stuffed as choc will fight one of these top few guys anyway.

numbers 2, 3, 6, 9 are undefeated and all of these guys have been rated for at least 6 months

Come on choc...pick one of the top few
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Old 04-03-2010, 05:03 PM   #21
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Marcus and Francis who would you take as a good fight for the vacant 160 belt....would a real WBA top 5 be good enough for you?

TCW Choc would fight for the interim title at 154 against the guy who holds it now

Oh and we all know with the 160 title Sturm is super champ and this is for the World title same as the following....

WBA super champs

Ward at SWM
Mosley at Welter
Marquez at Lightw
Chris John Feather
Caballero at superB

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Old 04-03-2010, 05:56 PM   #22
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Marcus and Francis who would you take as a good fight for the vacant 160 belt....would a real WBA top 5 be good enough for you?

TCW Choc would fight for the interim title at 154 against the guy who holds it now

Oh and we all know with the 160 title Sturm is super champ and this is for the World title same as the following....

WBA super champs

Ward at SWM
Mosley at Welter
Marquez at Lightw
Chris John Feather
Caballero at superB
why should he get a shot at the interim in the first place. Apart from **** somebody round, what has he done at 154.

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Old 04-04-2010, 01:43 AM   #23
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why should he get a shot at the interim in the first place. Apart from **** somebody round, what has he done at 154.

Most orgs will give you a interim/ eliminator shot in the next division up or down if you have been ranked in the top 1 or 2 for a while

So who do you thing it will be at 160 mate?

Top 5
Top 15
Top 25

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Old 04-04-2010, 02:17 AM   #24
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Ashley imo the only one on your list he has any real chance of beating is Macklin.
With Mundine's southpaw connection maybe Andy Lee is a sleeper.
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Old 04-04-2010, 02:20 AM   #25
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Ashley imo the only one on your list he has any real chance of beating is Macklin.
With Mundine's southpaw connection maybe Andy Lee is a sleeper.
Mate agree all those guys are a big risk for sure....as is Macklin as well IMO

I still hope he takes on one of the top 5 so we can see if he's still got it or not
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Most orgs will give you a interim/ eliminator shot in the next division up or down if you have been ranked in the top 1 or 2 for a while
I know money buys everything including rankings, I mean what has he done at 160? Just beat Geale, who would be lucky to be in top 10.
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:22 AM   #27
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I know money buys everything including rankings, I mean what has he done at 160? Just beat Geale, who would be lucky to be in top 10.

Daniel is not even in the top 15.

Look, this is how it works.
You ring the Org & ask how much is the sactioning fee to fight for a title.
"$5 geez"
"How much for a rating?"
"Where do you wanna be rated?"
"Well we wanna fight for a title, no ****en around here"
"$10 Geez"
"How much for the title then?"
"Well,,,with a saloon passage for your boy,,mates rates,,,all up $25G's"
"Done,,set a date"

Beats getting ****ed around I suppose.
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Old 04-04-2010, 04:30 AM   #28
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One worm has turned already, join him haters.

WBA baby!!!
****ing hardly! My point is he deserves credit if he fights one of the blokes that Ash mentioned. One point is I don't think he beats any of those Ash mentioned - nope, not even Macklin who I also think will beat Geale who I believe would beat Choc now if they fought again. I also wouldn't be regarding the winner as the WBA world champion; he would be the WBA number one challenger with a belt: a situation which seems to suit Choc as anyone Khoder decides to fight suddenly appears in the top 15 if indeed Anthony wins. But he will get mine, and he should get everybody's respect for fighting anyone of those guys, maybe Flash coming into Team Mundine was a fantastic thing on a couple of fronts...)
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Old 04-04-2010, 01:58 PM   #29
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****ing hardly! My point is he deserves credit if he fights one of the blokes that Ash mentioned. One point is I don't think he beats any of those Ash mentioned - nope, not even Macklin who I also think will beat Geale who I believe would beat Choc now if they fought again. I also wouldn't be regarding the winner as the WBA world champion; he would be the WBA number one challenger with a belt: a situation which seems to suit Choc as anyone Khoder decides to fight suddenly appears in the top 15 if indeed Anthony wins. But he will get mine, and he should get everybody's respect for fighting anyone of those guys, maybe Flash coming into Team Mundine was a fantastic thing on a couple of fronts...)
Can't see him not beating them to be honest, have you seen macklin fight? At best he would have a punchers chance, he just plows forward but I agree he beats geale.
You will be regarding him as the WBA champ because he will be that's how the WBA work, just because you personally have some sort of vendetta against the champ means nothing. Perhaps more green - siaca fights should be sanctioned like other orgs.
"Flash" has already stated he has nothing to do with fights getting made, the best thing is that one of choc's trainers is accessible to his fans.

Way to not care what I think though...happy hating
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Old 04-04-2010, 05:30 PM   #30
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I fully agree that it is a good thing that Flash comes in here. I have always enjoyed what he has had to say, excuse me if I take some of it with a grain of salt. It is not because of any "hate" towards Choc that I will not consider him WBA champion. IT IS BECAUSE THE WBA ALREADY HAVE A WORLD CHAMPION. The same goes for any of the other bullshit champs that the WBA have just to make more money. At this stage of his career Macklin will give him fits exactly because of his style, I give Choc great credit for taking one of these fights, if it comes off and I hope that others give him credit for taking on such a challenge as well.
Is Green V Siaca the greatest possible fight out there? No, but it is better than the likes of Nievas, Clavero, Hamdan and Soliman for the third fight after doing nothing to earn a rematch. So be careful of throwing stones around that glass house, even if you do throw like a girl....
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