Kessler vs Froch 2 - Page 4

avidlemon · 04-26-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TFFP

A further question might be is he even capable of doing that? He hasn't ever shown me he can throw combinations throughout a fight and maintain a pace throughout 12 rounds. He sacrifices a lot of that with his big swings, it takes a lot of energy particularly if you hit air. McCracken asked for more but he didn't deliver it until the last couple rounds.

well to be honest, i kind of agree with you. I think froch can look good, and be effective behind the jab. But his actual power shots seem to be not laboured, but not very cultured. and as a result he puts himself off balance as he does swing a little bit for the fences, and being off balance coming in with no defence he does get picked off.
The thing is though, i think kessler forced him into these errors at certain points in the fight.
It is frustrating watching him at times though, as he had kessler going at certain points, and seemed incapapble of going in for the kill like he did with taylor

ed7890 · 04-26-2010, 12:01 PM

I'd like to see a second, hope it happens. I'd still have it close to 50-50, but maybe slightly favoring Froch. I think he could improve on what he did at the weekend. He was a bit too negative, and if he forced it a bit more in a neutral venue I think he could take it.

Still I wouldn't put my house on it, 2 very close guys. It'd be great though, fantastic fight the last night.

JonOli · 04-27-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robpalmer135

If Ward wins his next two and Kessler and Froch win there next fights the semi finals will be....

Ward vs Abraham
Kessler vs Froch 2

I didn't realise that, that would be superb!!

I'd love to see these two go at it again.

TFFP · 04-27-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by avidlemon

well to be honest, i kind of agree with you. I think froch can look good, and be effective behind the jab. But his actual power shots seem to be not laboured, but not very cultured. and as a result he puts himself off balance as he does swing a little bit for the fences, and being off balance coming in with no defence he does get picked off.
The thing is though, i think kessler forced him into these errors at certain points in the fight.
It is frustrating watching him at times though, as he had kessler going at certain points, and seemed incapapble of going in for the kill like he did with taylor

Taylor was dieing on his ass in the last round so nothing was coming back. Kessler seemed about as strong as Froch, they were both tired. Kessler also invested in the body and took some steam out of Froch. As successful as Taylor's early boxing was he didn't seem to take much out of Carl and he was never the stronger guy like Kessler was.

icemax · 04-27-2010, 05:57 PM

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Taylor was dieing on his ass in the last round so nothing was coming back..

Froch had slotted the cunt, thats why nothing was coming back in the last two minutes of the round. You are doing to Froch precisely what you object to happening to Kessler...give the man some credit

TFFP · 04-27-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by icemax

Froch had slotted the cunt, thats why nothing was coming back

I didn't say why, I just said he was.

Kessler wasn't. Kessler was certainly tired but so was Carl, far more so than he was in the Taylor fight. The reasons for that are fairly obvious.

JonOli · 04-27-2010, 06:02 PM

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he was never the stronger guy like Kessler was.

When they were both throwing and landing it seemed to be Kessler (not always mind) backing off to me.

Kessler's persistence and volume however had Froch peddling backwards most the fight, so I guess stronger in that sense.

TFFP · 04-27-2010, 06:13 PM

Physical strength and power are not always interrelated. Quite often but not always. Cintron is a very good puncher but he's not very strong in close.

I think we're talking small margins for both of these two in these departments. Froch looked to punch harder but Kessler punched hard enough to back him up and had the physical strength to maintain it. Kessler was stronger in the ways that mattered, we didn't see them enough in close to determine raw strength.

JonOli · 04-27-2010, 06:48 PM

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we didn't see them enough in close to determine raw strength.

Raw strength! which warrior has the most raw strength?!

Well, we shall have to wait until part 2, to find out.

Quips aside, I do hope that they meet again, before they are both done, I'd like to see that.

04-26-2010, 12:01 PM	#47
ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Galway Posts: 8,922 vCash: 1127	Re: Kessler vs Froch 2 I'd like to see a second, hope it happens. I'd still have it close to 50-50, but maybe slightly favoring Froch. I think he could improve on what he did at the weekend. He was a bit too negative, and if he forced it a bit more in a neutral venue I think he could take it. Still I wouldn't put my house on it, 2 very close guys. It'd be great though, fantastic fight the last night.
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04-27-2010, 06:13 PM	#53
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,411 vCash: 2500	Re: Kessler vs Froch 2 Physical strength and power are not always interrelated. Quite often but not always. Cintron is a very good puncher but he's not very strong in close. I think we're talking small margins for both of these two in these departments. Froch looked to punch harder but Kessler punched hard enough to back him up and had the physical strength to maintain it. Kessler was stronger in the ways that mattered, we didn't see them enough in close to determine raw strength.
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