Darren Sutherland

[sugarsean]

Originally Posted by FIN

I was told that a week after his death,im just saying what i was told,my friend wouldnt lie,i dont mean to offend anyone..

No offense

That sounds to me like a bunch of dickheads, sitting around saying " Well why would he do that, he's got it all, a great boxing career ahead of him, must of been gay "

what people don't realise is this guy was being touted as a future world champion, when that happens you can't have a normal start to you career because you being constantly judged for every little thing you do, I think the guy missed his family and was afraid that if he left england to go home, people would say that he's a coward and could'nt hack it,

which is bullshit, but thats the way people are in a small country like Ireland ( I know I've lived their for 10 years ) your business is everyone's business just look at the shit this guy is saying above, people are talking shit about the man and he's dead imagine what it would be like if had stopped boxing and went back to Ireland, thats a hard thing deal with for a young man.

anyway I did'nt want to write in this thread but when I saw this shit I had to write, it's disrespectful to the Man and his Family

[avidlemon]

Originally Posted by sugarsean

No offense

That sounds to me like a bunch of dickheads, sitting around saying " Well why would he do that, he's got it all, a great boxing career ahead of him, must of been gay "

what people don't realise is this guy was being touted as a future world champion, when that happens you can't have a normal start to you career because you being constantly judged for every little thing you do, I think the guy missed his family and was afraid that if he left england to go home, people would say that he's a coward and could'nt hack it,

which is bullshit, but thats the way people are in a small country like Ireland ( I know I've lived their for 10 years ) your business is everyone's business just look at the shit this guy is saying above, people are talking shit about the man and he's dead imagine what it would be like if had stopped boxing and went back to Ireland, thats a hard thing deal with for a young man.

anyway I did'nt want to write in this thread but when I saw this shit I had to write, it's disrespectful to the Man and his Family

that's a bit over the top mate. The person who posted obviously heard it from what he thought was a reliable source. He has already been roasted over it, give him a break.

[moorser]

Originally Posted by FIN

A friend of mine's younger brother knows darrens younger sister and she told him that Darren was gay and couldnt cope with it and the fact that it might come out,before everyone attacks me im just saying thats what i heard and a lot of people in my area are saying the same thing..

i would say thats a load of bollox tbh , i know a few lads who box out of st.saviours and im sure they would have heard a rumour like that if it was going around

R.I.P Darren

[moorser]

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[Kelly green]

Originally Posted by moorser

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Darren was excellent. Who was the lankey southpaw he beat in the end of the video?

[tony mush]

Originally Posted by Kelly green

Darren was excellent. Who was the lankey southpaw he beat in the end of the video?

darren o neill i think

[sugarsean]

Originally Posted by avidlemon

that's a bit over the top mate. The person who posted obviously heard it from what he thought was a reliable source. He has already been roasted over it, give him a break.

you would'nt be saying it was over the top if someone said that shit about your dead friend or brother, or if you had died and people were talking shit about you and your not there to defend yourself, you don't go talking shit just because you've heard some bullshit rumor, his family don't need to hear that bullshit.

[HeavyT]

hes just saying what he heard from someone. Maybe shouldnt have told it like it was from a concrete source though... anyways this is tragiv regardless. sometimes you have to try and let go of shit like this cause most of the time, it will never truly come to light.

[xoborp]

Originally Posted by SteelTownCobra

If he didn't leave a suicide note then we'll never know. He must have been suffering from really bad depression to do such a thing when his life seemed to be moving very much in the right direction, well, his boxing career anyway.

My best friend took his own life a few years ago in a similar fashion. I never saw it coming and I don't know exactly why he did it, and I was his best friend and closer to him than anyone.

I guess men don't seek help for this kind of thing as it's not very macho to admit you're suffering from depression.

It is very true, i know this has nothing to do with darrens sad and untimely death, but i have employees that work for me, and some have had family problems etc, and in work they just seem ok, and then before you know it they are off sick suffering from depression, when they return they are embarassed when talking about it, so yes you are right, men tend to keep this to themselves more often than not, but in reality if they were a bit like women, and opened up more they would be in a position where people could actually help them.

[portside]

some boxers with high profiles feel under great preessure to perform, and with long term contracts to fulfill etc and other problems to compound matters. moloney will have looked after him like an egg in a cake. but it was a total disaster to a top athlete, there has been many suicides in ireland involving young people over the last few years,definatly a sickening state of affairs for relatives and freinds left to wonder why it all came about.

['Ben']

When you're depressed it can often help when you stay busy. I don't imagine it would of helped him being alone in a new city with no new real challenges coming his way in terms of opposition or anything. Just typical Maloney bum fighters to stick him in there with. I'm not blaming Frank or anything, but his match making wouldn't of helped.

[avidlemon]

Originally Posted by sugarsean

you would'nt be saying it was over the top if someone said that shit about your dead friend or brother, or if you had died and people were talking shit about you and your not there to defend yourself, you don't go talking shit just because you've heard some bullshit rumor, his family don't need to hear that bullshit.

Read what i posted straight away after the guy posted the statement. I was only saying to lay off the guy mate


"fucking hell mate, that is some kind of statment to come out with. You must be 100% certain to say that, no?"