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Old 06-26-2007, 12:04 PM   #46
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Default Re: told you fools...all yall that was hatin on kimbo slice...man up and take your L

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Does anyone aside from myself find it ironic that this guy insisted on fighting every one of his street fights standing up with fists only, yet as soon as he faces someone who he knows can punch, he immediately takes it to the ground? As a matter of fact, anyone remember when that UFC guy kept trying to take his fight with Kimbo to the ground, and all his little bitch-boy followers kept jumping in and saying it wasn't allowed?
No. He was a bare knuckle brawler with no wrestling experience. Why would he want to wrestle? That is how he chose to fight.

Then he became an MMA fighter where anything was allowed. I think common sense dictated him taking the fight to the ground since he was fighting an ex WBO title holder. He was winning on his feet anyway to be honest.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:17 PM   #47
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Ray Mercer +175

Kimbo Slice -215

These were the odds at Bodog for the fight. I don't know shit about this but it looks like they had Mercer a head by alot, if I am reading it correctly. That being said I can't believe people still don't give Kimbo his props for this fight. He was supposed to lose according to this. I would think this company has people who are in the know come up with these odds since they have money on this.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:39 PM   #48
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props to kimbo. i havent gotten to see the fight but i expected it to be in rays favor on the feet and kimbos on the ground. looks like kimbos training paid off and mercer wasnt ready for a NON boxing FIGHT! boxing with someone is totally different then actually "fighting" them.

lol at kimbo vs sapp .... itd deff be an endurance test but i see sapp landing too many hard blows in the first 30 seconds.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:42 PM   #49
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props to kimbo. i havent gotten to see the fight but i expected it to be in rays favor on the feet and kimbos on the ground. looks like kimbos training paid off and mercer wasnt ready for a NON boxing FIGHT! boxing with someone is totally different then actually "fighting" them.

lol at kimbo vs sapp .... itd deff be an endurance test but i see sapp landing too many hard blows in the first 30 seconds.
Kimbo has decent head movement and Sapp has a shit chin. But I'd favor Sapp.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:55 PM   #50
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sapp vs hoost was pretty good. hoost has better kicking skills than kimbo but if sapp throws some good kicks on kimbo he might fall easily. but yeah sapps like a big ass ogre.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:38 PM   #51
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Is fighting only about ages in your book? What about the fighters themselves, their backrounds, does that mean anything? Kimbo is 33 and has been doing nothing but fighting in the street. Mercer has been training and competing at a top level of boxing all of his life. The answer to your question is simple. I see your point of it not being a big deal, if you agree that boxing is an extremely limited fighting sport compared to an MMA fight. I agree, which is why I certainly wasn't shocked to see Kimbo beat him. Had it been a top shelf MMA fighter, I would have bet everything that I own on the MMA fighter regardless of who the pure boxer was.

This argument that most are having goes back to the old boxing is a superior sport world. People have been saying for years that someone like Mercer would kill Kimbo in a fight. Not a boxing match, but a fight. This is a wake up call for people who think that boxers are unstoppable fighters in a real atmosphere. Who think that they will "kill people with those little gloves". The reality is that in a real fight, most of the beautiful, techincal ins and outs of boxing are pretty much useless.

Well, for my part I would never say boxing is a "superior" sport. That is a ridiculous concept in my opinion. How can one sport be "superior" to any other?? Ridiculous. They are just different.

What I find funny is how people talk about MMA being closer to a real fight, like that's something to be proud of. Who cares - it still ISN'T a real fight. If I want to see a real fight I'll start one in a bar. That isn't why I watch boxing.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:40 PM   #52
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Who is asking you to be suprised?
All these threads with hysterical titles like "told you fools...all yall that was hatin on kimbo slice...man up and take your L" imply that it was some major event an something to shout about. And imply that we should be shocked by the result.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:37 PM   #53
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All these threads with hysterical titles like "told you fools...all yall that was hatin on kimbo slice...man up and take your L" imply that it was some major event an something to shout about. And imply that we should be shocked by the result.
Look, there was a large contingent who were predicting a huge blowout by Mercer just because he was a boxer and in there mind any boxer is going to "starch the bum" when they fight an MMA fighter (which to call Kimbo that is a stretch), thats who this thread is directed to, you are obviously not one of those people, so this thread is not directed at you, so you are not "supposed to be shocked" it is just a way of showing a few idiots how wrong they are.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:39 PM   #54
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Look, there was a large contingent who were predicting a huge blowout by Mercer just because he was a boxer and in there mind any boxer is going to "starch the bum" when they fight an MMA fighter (which to call Kimbo that is a stretch), thats who this thread is directed to, you are obviously not one of those people, so this thread is not directed at you, so you are not "supposed to be shocked" it is just a way of showing a few idiots how wrong they are.
you said it exactly how i wanted to say it
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:35 AM   #55
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Look, there was a large contingent who were predicting a huge blowout by Mercer just because he was a boxer and in there mind any boxer is going to "starch the bum" when they fight an MMA fighter
Well, they were idiots. I agree.

In an MMA fight the one who has more MMA training will win, especially if they are younger and fitter. It's a no-brainer.
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:50 AM   #56
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He did trade punches and everything else on the feet ans was owning Mercer until he decided to own him on the ground. There's the difference between MMA and boxing, the other dimensions, which you boxing fans seem to neglect.
He traded about half a dozen punches, none of which landed cleanly.

In a boxing match he gets owned. In an MMA match against an MMA fighter he gets owned. In a street fight against a guy who wasn't afraid of him, he already got owned.

Folks just love Kimbo because he looks mean, but there are harder guys in my neighbourhood and probably in yours too.

It's just that the REAL hard men don't feel the need to shout about it and put their fights on the internet. They just hospitalize people on the DL.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:14 PM   #57
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Look, there was a large contingent who were predicting a huge blowout by Mercer just because he was a boxer and in there mind any boxer is going to "starch the bum" when they fight an MMA fighter (which to call Kimbo that is a stretch), thats who this thread is directed to, you are obviously not one of those people, so this thread is not directed at you, so you are not "supposed to be shocked" it is just a way of showing a few idiots how wrong they are.
Amen.
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