could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for 12?

kirky c · 05-30-2010, 04:09 AM

could vatili do what no one else has and ko the giant and dismiss hayes best attempt or is he lacking the speed to defeat the big man? i personally think he could take valuev out because of his superior skills an even power. valuev uses his height well but not his weight and with vatili the height difference isn't that much of an advantage. plus this fight could really help us predict david hayes chances against the brothers.

Boxed Ears · 05-30-2010, 04:11 AM

Foolishness. No one can kayo the GOAT who has the GCOAT.

Will · 05-30-2010, 04:12 AM

Without doubt the later.

RJD · 05-30-2010, 04:15 AM

In his prime I'd back him to stop Valuev on accumulation of damage. Not now though. Wlad on the other hand would have a good shot at stopping the giant.

BoxingFanNo1 · 05-30-2010, 04:16 AM

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If Valuev can ......zzzzz.......

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Fighting Pride · 05-30-2010, 04:39 AM

Valuev would present as much challenge to Vitali as a punching bag. If Vitali comes out looking for the KO, I can see the fight being stopped within 3. If he's more conservative, i see Valuev succumbing around the 8th after taking too many right hands.

BoxingFanNo1 · 05-30-2010, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighting Pride

Valuev would present as much challenge to Vitali as a punching bag. If Vitali comes out looking for the KO, I can see the fight being stopped within 3. If he's more conservative, i see Valuev succumbing around the 8th after taking too many right hands.

You've obviously done your research and based this on the last 10 years of Vitalis career, good work.

Vitali UD is where the smart money goes.

Boxed Ears · 05-30-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighting Pride

Valuev would present as much challenge to Vitali as a punching bag. If Vitali comes out looking for the KO, I can see the fight being stopped within 3. If he's more conservative, i see Valuev succumbing around the 8th after taking too many right hands.

So, Vitali takes Sosnowski into the tenth round, but Valuev can't even get that far. What bullshit.

p.Townend · 05-30-2010, 04:50 AM

There is a chance Valuev could be stopped by the corner like Sam Peter but i cant see a KO.It would be pretty boring stuff with Valuev unable to land much and Vittali winning every round.

Fighting Pride · 05-30-2010, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxingFanNo1

You've obviously done your research and based this on the last 10 years of Vitalis career, good work.

Vitali UD is where the smart money goes.

Valuev goes 12 with smaller guys who just can't overcome his physical advantages to get to him enough to hurt him. Against Vitali all these advantages are taken away and he will be the easiest opponent to hit Vitali's ever faced.

Fighting Pride · 05-30-2010, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

So, Vitali takes Sosnowski into the tenth round, but Valuev can't even get that far. What bullshit.

Sosnowski was a moving target. Valuev will be a slow moving punching bag

Boxed Ears · 05-30-2010, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Fighting Pride

Sosnowski was a moving target. Valuev will be a slow moving punching bag

Um, no, Valuev is not slow, he's thoughtful and a minimalist. You just can't see it. You have to know the sport to be able to see it. You can play checkers very fast but the good chess, is not speed chess.

Kalasinn · 05-30-2010, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Foolishness. No one can kayo the GOAT who has the GCOAT.

Too true, Valuev is invincible.

The Russian Giant
Can't be touched,
Can't be stopped,
Can't be moved,
Can't be rocked,
Can't be shook,
He Cold!

Nikolay is no Super Heavyweight, he is the Über Heavyweight and even Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes admitted that he would box their socks off for 15 rounds.

P.S: Valuev was a long way past his untouchable prime against "White Tyson" Chagaev and "Fastest since Ali" Haye and he still completely dominated them, but anti-giant bias judges robbed him in both instances.

paulinchen_ · 05-30-2010, 06:02 AM

No, it will be boring 12 Rounds.

Fighting Pride · 05-30-2010, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

Um, no, Valuev is not slow, he's thoughtful and a minimalist. You just can't see it. You have to know the sport to be able to see it. You can play checkers very fast but the good chess, is not speed chess.

Ok, whatever you want to call it. Maybe the Valuev fights I've seen were broadcast in super slow motion to highlight these subtle chess moves. I still must've missed them.

In any case, Vitali is a chess master and will checkmate Valuev any time of his choosing. No disrespect to Valuev, you're obviously a fan. He's just not able to be competitive with Vitali or Wlad.

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kirky c white mike ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: manchester Posts: 167 vCash: 500	could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for 12? could vatili do what no one else has and ko the giant and dismiss hayes best attempt or is he lacking the speed to defeat the big man? i personally think he could take valuev out because of his superior skills an even power. valuev uses his height well but not his weight and with vatili the height difference isn't that much of an advantage. plus this fight could really help us predict david hayes chances against the brothers.
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Boxed Ears Lowering Post Count East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: If here, hell Posts: 22,199 vCash: 16214	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for Foolishness. No one can kayo the GOAT who has the GCOAT.
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Will Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,094 vCash: 75	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for Without doubt the later.
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RJD Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 892 vCash: 5000	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for In his prime I'd back him to stop Valuev on accumulation of damage. Not now though. Wlad on the other hand would have a good shot at stopping the giant.
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BoxingFanNo1 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,932 vCash: 2650	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for I think it wou..... zzzzzzzz Vitali would use his jab and.....zzzzzzz If Valuev can ......zzzzz....... God damn just thinking about it is sending me to...... zzzzzzzzz
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Fighting Pride Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,270 vCash: 1000	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for Valuev would present as much challenge to Vitali as a punching bag. If Vitali comes out looking for the KO, I can see the fight being stopped within 3. If he's more conservative, i see Valuev succumbing around the 8th after taking too many right hands.
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p.Townend Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dewsbury Posts: 3,165 vCash: 100	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for There is a chance Valuev could be stopped by the corner like Sam Peter but i cant see a KO.It would be pretty boring stuff with Valuev unable to land much and Vittali winning every round.
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paulinchen_ Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 259 vCash: 1000	Re: could vatili knockout valuev or would it just be a boring slowmotion grapple for No, it will be boring 12 Rounds.
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