Vitali Klitschko's career defining moment? - Page 2

FORMIDABLE · 06-02-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish

Lewis was shot, passed his best and he knew it so he retired and the fact is Vitali STILL COULDN'T BEAT HIM.

He didn't deserve a rematch, he couldn't be an old out of shape half trained Lewis, Lennox was like who is this big bum, i don't even need to train to bust this fool up, go get me a Big mac.

He was beating him 4 rounds to 2 on all of the judges' cards. The cut, caused by a thumb to the eye, cost him the fight. He definately deserved a rematch. Lewis sat on his title another 8 months after the fight. It's not like he retired immediately. He could have got into shape for a rematch if he thought he could kick Vitali's ass. But he didn't want no more and quit once Vitali was ready to fight again.

Boxed Ears · 06-02-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by madballster

What's Lewis career defining moment?

Beating a shot Tyson while hugging him 90 times? Rematching a drug addicted McCall? Or maybe it was the 24 rounds of bore and hugfest against a steroid abusing ex-cruiserweight Holyfield?

The more I think about it the more it becomes obvious that beating Vitali was Lewis' most exciting fight and his best altogether win. Never has Lewis beaten a man who after losing to Lewis went on to be a universally recognized belt holder. Never has Lewis shown more will, heart and determination in a fight.

Big Vitali fan, are ya?

VecArrow · 06-02-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by madballster

What's Lewis career defining moment?

Beating a shot Tyson while hugging him 90 times? Rematching a drug addicted McCall where Lennox couldn't knock down a guy who stood in front of him with no guard? Or maybe it was the 24 rounds of bore and hugfest against a steroid abusing ex-cruiserweight Holyfield?

The more I think about it the more it becomes obvious that beating Vitali was Lewis' most exciting fight and his best altogether win. Never has Lewis beaten a man who after losing to Lewis went on to be a universally recognized belt holder. Never has Lewis shown more will, heart and determination in a fight.

Maybe because Lewis had all the belts?

TommyV · 06-02-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by madballster

What's Lewis career defining moment?

Beating a shot Tyson while hugging him 90 times? Rematching a drug addicted McCall where Lennox couldn't knock down a guy who stood in front of him with no guard? Or maybe it was the 24 rounds of bore and hugfest against a steroid abusing ex-cruiserweight Holyfield?

The more I think about it the more it becomes obvious that beating Vitali was Lewis' most exciting fight and his best altogether win. Never has Lewis beaten a man who after losing to Lewis went on to be a universally recognized belt holder. Never has Lewis shown more will, heart and determination in a fight.

Sheikh · 06-02-2010, 09:22 AM

Lewis would have made 20 million ina rematch with Vitali. Why did he retire? was he scared of losing the rematch?

the_brigand · 06-02-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Scottish

Lewis was shot, passed his best and he knew it so he retired and the fact is Vitali STILL COULDN'T BEAT HIM.

He didn't deserve a rematch, he couldn't be an old out of shape half trained Lewis, Lennox was like who is this big bum, i don't even need to train to bust this fool up, go get me a Big mac.

this is the guy that Haye is afraid of fighting....

RonnieHornschuh · 06-02-2010, 09:27 AM

It's interesting how in some people's minds Lewis, coming from one of his biggest career wins over Tyson in 2002, suddenly became shot only one year and one fight later. Go and look at the weigh-in pictures and tell me Lennox was out of shape.

NoHomeJerome · 06-02-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RonnieHornschuh

It's interesting how in some people's minds Lewis, coming from one of his biggest career wins over Tyson in 2002, suddenly became shot only one year and one fight later. Go and look at the weigh-in pictures and tell me Lennox was out of shape.

Lewis weighed in at a career high 256. Shot may be the wrong word I apologize, heavily faded may be more of a better description. Definitely no where near prime though.

fabo1988 · 06-02-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RonnieHornschuh

It's interesting how in some people's minds Lewis, coming from one of his biggest career wins over Tyson in 2002, suddenly became shot only one year and one fight later. Go and look at the weigh-in pictures and tell me Lennox was out of shape.

Are you really suprised? Two words, mayweather/mosley

madballster · 06-02-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyV

You're one of the better historians here on the forum. Could you point out one opponent of Lennox who, after losing to Lewis, went on to enhance his own resume and legacy rather than continue his decline or implode altogether? Go through them one by one.

Botha, Grant, Golotha, Holyfield, Tyson, McCall, Rahman, Mavrovich etc. What have these guys done after losing to Lewis? Nothing.

I'm not taking anything away here from Lewis, I just feel he doesn't get enough credit for his win against Vitali, his only opponent that was on an upward trajectory in his career rather than on a decline like the rest.

Boxed Ears · 06-02-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by madballster

You're one of the better historians here on the forum. Could you point out one opponent of Lennox who, after losing to Lewis, went on to enhance his own resume and legacy rather than continue his decline or implode altogether? Go through them one by one.

Botha, Grant, Golotha, Holyfield, Tyson, McCall, Rahman, Mavrovich etc. What have these guys done after losing to Lewis? Nothing.

I'm not taking anything away here from Lewis, I just feel he doesn't get enough credit for his win against Vitali, his only opponent that was on an upward trajectory in his career rather than on a decline like the rest.

Holyfield went on to win the WBA belt against John Ruiz, then challenge for a world title FIVE more times, earning a draw with Ruiz in one of them, a defeat to Byrd, a defeat to Ibragimov and a very contested loss to Sugar Nikolay Valuev.

realsoulja · 06-02-2010, 09:57 AM

shooked up lennox

slo100 · 06-02-2010, 10:11 AM

"out of shape lewis" I love it.... He was only 3 pounds heavier than his first fight with Hasim Rahman, when you are a 6'5" heavyweight taking a shit, a piss, missing a meal and not having a drink can mean the difference between 3 pounds.

Boxed Ears · 06-02-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by slo100

"out of shape lewis" I love it.... He was only 3 pounds heavier than his first fight with Hasim Rahman, when you are a 6'5" heavyweight taking a shit, a piss, missing a meal and not having a drink can mean the difference between 3 pounds.

...Because he was in tremendous fitness for that first Rahman fight, which is why he won it...on his back...

NoHomeJerome · 06-02-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by slo100

"out of shape lewis" I love it.... He was only 3 pounds heavier than his first fight with Hasim Rahman, when you are a 6'5" heavyweight taking a shit, a piss, missing a meal and not having a drink can mean the difference between 3 pounds.

And he got laid out. Thanks for proving my point.

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06-02-2010, 09:22 AM	#20
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RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 5,456 vCash: 1399	Re: Vitali Klitschko's career defining moment? It's interesting how in some people's minds Lewis, coming from one of his biggest career wins over Tyson in 2002, suddenly became shot only one year and one fight later. Go and look at the weigh-in pictures and tell me Lennox was out of shape.
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06-02-2010, 10:11 AM	#28
slo100 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 890 vCash: 200	Re: Vitali Klitschko's career defining moment? "out of shape lewis" I love it.... He was only 3 pounds heavier than his first fight with Hasim Rahman, when you are a 6'5" heavyweight taking a shit, a piss, missing a meal and not having a drink can mean the difference between 3 pounds.
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