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View Poll Results: Vitali's Career Defining Moment?
Quitting vs Byrd 17 9.50%
Being stopped in his prime by a fat shot Lennox Lewis 162 90.50%
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:46 PM   #61
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Really? Vitali at the time was thought to be a heartless quitter with no boxing skills whatsoever. Most people expected Lewis to easily outbox Vitali, many said Vitali's robotic, slow telegraphed punches would never even get close to Lewis' chin.

Had Lewis known he was to face Vitali he might actually have trained even less.

Yes, Lewis did not think highly of Vitali at all. Plenty of quotes from the previous year where he declined to face him because it would be too easy, "Vitali is another Grant. " in so many words. While he was fairly impressed with Johnson's one punch power and admitted that's the only reason he chose to fight hiim.

Vitali is also simply not as big a banger as Rahman, he could hurt an out of shape Lewis but couldn't bank on one punch power to drop him cold out of nohwere. Lewis had time to realize he was in a fight, gather his senses, and scrape past him. He didn't have that luxory when Rahman suddenly leaped across the ring and wiped that smile off his face.
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:53 PM   #62
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when Rahman suddenly leaped across the ring and wiped that smile off his face.
Everytime I read something like this from you it will draw me to this:

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BTW, I am a Lennox Lewis fan for the most part.
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:56 PM   #63
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What's Lewis career defining moment?

Beating a shot Tyson while hugging him 90 times? Rematching a drug addicted McCall where Lennox couldn't knock down a guy who stood in front of him with no guard? Or maybe it was the 24 rounds of bore and hugfest against a steroid abusing ex-cruiserweight Holyfield?

The more I think about it the more it becomes obvious that beating Vitali was Lewis' most exciting fight and his best altogether win. Never has Lewis beaten a man who after losing to Lewis went on to be a universally recognized belt holder. Never has Lewis shown more will, heart and determination in a fight.
Try thinking a little more and maybe you'll remember the Mercer fight. Rick tested a prime Lewis much more than Vitlay did to an old unmotivated Lewis. Now that was an exciting fight with much more skill being displayed than in the vk bout. And judging by the way the sixth round ended, with vk hanging on for dear life, I highly doubt that vk would have finished the fight. That cut was probably the best thing that ever happened to vk.
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:56 PM   #64
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Everytime I read something like this from you it will draw me to this:




Your such a ****ing idiot. You can't contradict any of my facts, so you dwell on this stupidity that I've done addressed. But whatever helps you sleep better...NO NO LIES FROM LEWIS HATERS, LIES!!!

I've gone on record to say I AM NOT FAN OF MOST OF LEWIS' TITLE REIGN where arrogance, laziness, and money reigned supreme. Sorry, I don't blindly jack off to everything the man did.


Now a motivated Lewis humilating Golota, Rahman II, and Ruddock is something I can get behind. Unlike most who just want to just hate on Vitali for beating on a fat old man, I have even praised Lennox's smart and gutsy performance in several threads on the subject; showing toughness, durability, and the ability to make on the fly adjustments at a time when he was being criticized for being a china chin softie that couldn't handle a real fight.

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Old 06-02-2010, 01:58 PM   #65
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Lewis by far, that made Vitali, by fighting with that cut, wanting to go on, winning on the cards at the time.

(Im not saying he would of won, lets not go there) but rather that he was up and the public appealed to that.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:08 PM   #66
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I'd say it's being stopped by an out of shape shot Lennox Lewis.
That is what he will be remembered for.

This may be true for you, but to pass this on as some sort of undisputable fact is a bit shortsided. The man is a champion and has earned more respect than this, IMO.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:10 PM   #67
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Haha, Vitali Klitschko is a bad man.
He will be remembered for the Lewis fight, for scaring Lennox into retirement.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:21 PM   #68
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That is exactly right. Prime Vitali was about to be stopped and left horizontal staring at the lights or the ref could save him to fight another day. Prime Vitali wasn't even as good as a past prime and quite out of shape Lewis. Vitali is way overrated and offensively actually far below a second rate heavyweight like Corrie Sanders. Thank goodness for his size and the weakness of the current era or he would be completely forgettable. As it is, he is completely ignored in the US because everyone realizes that none of the great large sized athletes are boxing so his wins over complete bums means absolutely nothing. This era is the analog to the "war years" when all the able bodied athletes were competing elsewhere and only lower level scrubs remained to fight among themselves.

Yeah, thank goodness, God forbid you give the man credit for achieving one of the greatest sports accomplishments possible. I mean far be it for anyone to recognize or appreciate a man who trains hard, is physically gifted, skilled, tough, and has achieved championship status. There's no reason to be over the top either way, both Klitschko's have earned respect and they dominate their division, period.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:24 PM   #69
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Vitali Klitschko has an Iron Chin.
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Old 06-02-2010, 02:25 PM   #70
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Dominating the sport like only Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, Johnson, Ali and Louis were able to. Completely dominating.
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How has he dominated? He's beaten some solid B level guys but has never even proven himself to be the no1 heavyweight in the world because he won't fight his brother.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:06 PM   #71
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Where's the option for "both of the above"??

I can't decide

His quitting was bad enough but flopping around like a glass jawed cunt against Lewis and Sanders was pretty memorable too, as was his retiring to avoid the monster Rahman.

He's also going to be remembered not only for quitting against Byrd but also making Byrd look like Mike Tyson in the way he was stalking VITLAY in that final round
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:24 PM   #72
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Don't know why everyon's banging on about Lewis-that's just negativity and criticism for it's own sake.

As it stands Vitali's best win is probably Peter or Sanders, he has the oldest champion to return thing going for him as well.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:27 PM   #73
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how about Lewis retiring the day AFTER Vitali was made his mandatory? not to mention Lewis was trying to sue Tyson into a 2nd fight.

Vitali was winning the fight and being cut dosent mean the other guys "stronger" or "better" it just mean vasiline wasn't applied correctly or a bad angle punch. if anything lewis beat him on more so luck then anything and he couldnt and would not have ever been able to repeat the win and he knew this so he retired.

Foool, Lewis retired cause he was done and he knew it. Just cause Vitali was the last guy he fought he hardly means Vitali retired Lewis. Esp cause Lewis stopped him.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:31 PM   #74
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Vitali's defining moments are as follows:

INtimidating Lennox into hasty retirement.

Avenging the dangerous Sanders with a brutal beatdown.

Astonishingly easy wins over Kirk Johnson, Sam Peter, Johnson, Arreola, etc.

Scaring Haye into hiding and silence.

Dominating the sport like only Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, Johnson, Ali and Louis were able to. Completely dominating.

Knockout percentage the best in HWT history.

many proud and awesome defining moments in the career of Vitali.
All true.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:39 PM   #75
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Yeah, Foreman at 45 has him beat there.
Forman has everybody beat in that department.

The difference is Vitali did it after a 4 year retirement & he fought for the WBC belt without a tune-up. That's something special & you were alive to witness it. Consider yourself lucky.................
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