Julio Cesar Chavez Jr ~vs~ John Duddy - Page 4

EnglishWay · 06-26-2010, 04:02 PM

100 on duddy

Боксёр · 06-26-2010, 05:24 PM

This fight scares me . I feel like Jr isn't anything special but even I could land few big shots on Duddy not to speak about a pro boxer .

Boxing Girl · 06-26-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

I'm going to see how you're betting before I bet from here on out.

3500 v-cash on Chavez to win.....1 K on Chavez to win by decision.

Duddy could get stopped on cuts, so there is a little risk in the decision pick.

kenmore · 06-26-2010, 05:58 PM

If Duddy's in top shape, this will turn out to be a very competitive fight that could go either way. I think people are overrating Chavez Jr.: the kid has not looked good at 160 lbs., he has no amateur background, and he has a life-long reputation for being lazy in the gym. Chavez Jr. is not the overwhelming bomber or first rate talent that it would take to blow Duddy away. Duddy's limitations are well known -- he's hittable, not a heavy banger, he cuts, and he's a "B" level talent -- but so far, there's no evidence that Chavez Jr. is any better.

The way I see it, both of these guys are left-hooking clubfighters who like to fight on the inside. When allowed to put his punches together, Duddy's is actually very flashy with his hands, particularly his left: he mixes left hooks to the head and body, and jabs nicely. I could see Duddy outworking Chavez Jr. at close quarters, particularly given that Chavez doesn't have heavy punching power to make Duddy fold.

Will Chavez Jr. use his jab and counterpunching ability to rip Duddy up from outside? I doubt it. Based on the films I've seen of Chavez Jr., he's a good but not great distance fighter. I don't think he'll have any real edge on Duddy at long-range. Look for Duddy for force his way inside.

It could go either way. The pair is evenly matched. In fact, Duddy's proven capacity to come back from the brink in slugfests against Yori Boy Campas and Waldemar Smichet may stand him in good stead here.

The big difference is the pro-Chavez San Antonio crowd. Possibly this fight ends in a robbery decision for Junior. In that case, Bob Arum will hype a rematch on pay-per-view.

Boxed Ears · 06-27-2010, 01:07 AM

If I really wanted to be the smartass that I am, I would go ahead and put all my vCash on Chavez by decision now that the fight's over, since the betting is still opened. ...But I also don't want to be banned. So, I won't.

IntentionalButt · 06-27-2010, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

If I really wanted to be the smartass that I am, I would go ahead and put all my vCash on Chavez by decision now that the fight's over, since the betting is still opened. ...But I also don't want to be banned. So, I won't.

Oh shit, you're right! Rummy, you burnout!

Boxing Girl · 06-27-2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxed Ears

If I really wanted to be the smartass that I am, I would go ahead and put all my vCash on Chavez by decision now that the fight's over, since the betting is still opened. ...But I also don't want to be banned. So, I won't.

good call

Rumsfeld · 06-27-2010, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Oh shit, you're right! Rummy, you burnout!

Oops!

Jenna closed it for me and I just settled. Thanks for pointing this out.

Boxing Girl · 06-27-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Oh shit, you're right! Rummy, you burnout!

I took care of it

MrFoFody · 06-27-2010, 04:29 AM

SLooooowly gaining some v cash back

tliang1000 · 06-27-2010, 04:34 AM

test

Boxed Ears · 06-27-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxing Girl

good call

I'm glad you closed it because my self-restraint was starting to burn out.

06-26-2010, 04:02 PM	#46
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06-26-2010, 05:24 PM	#47
Боксёр Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,578 vCash: 102	Re: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr ~vs~ John Duddy This fight scares me . I feel like Jr isn't anything special but even I could land few big shots on Duddy not to speak about a pro boxer .
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06-26-2010, 05:58 PM	#49
kenmore Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,801 vCash: 103	Re: Julio Cesar Chavez Jr ~vs~ John Duddy If Duddy's in top shape, this will turn out to be a very competitive fight that could go either way. I think people are overrating Chavez Jr.: the kid has not looked good at 160 lbs., he has no amateur background, and he has a life-long reputation for being lazy in the gym. Chavez Jr. is not the overwhelming bomber or first rate talent that it would take to blow Duddy away. Duddy's limitations are well known -- he's hittable, not a heavy banger, he cuts, and he's a "B" level talent -- but so far, there's no evidence that Chavez Jr. is any better. The way I see it, both of these guys are left-hooking clubfighters who like to fight on the inside. When allowed to put his punches together, Duddy's is actually very flashy with his hands, particularly his left: he mixes left hooks to the head and body, and jabs nicely. I could see Duddy outworking Chavez Jr. at close quarters, particularly given that Chavez doesn't have heavy punching power to make Duddy fold. Will Chavez Jr. use his jab and counterpunching ability to rip Duddy up from outside? I doubt it. Based on the films I've seen of Chavez Jr., he's a good but not great distance fighter. I don't think he'll have any real edge on Duddy at long-range. Look for Duddy for force his way inside. It could go either way. The pair is evenly matched. In fact, Duddy's proven capacity to come back from the brink in slugfests against Yori Boy Campas and Waldemar Smichet may stand him in good stead here. The big difference is the pro-Chavez San Antonio crowd. Possibly this fight ends in a robbery decision for Junior. In that case, Bob Arum will hype a rematch on pay-per-view.
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