Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao? - Page 2

techks · 07-01-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

I think he just barely hit 30 at that point so Pac probably caught him just off his physical prime. Not too far past it though & that's why I think Barrera would never be able to beat Pac. It's Manny's speed what he can't deal with.

Who can deal with Pacquiao's speed? He's as hyper as a kid on their sugar rush. I do agree MAB wasn't in his physical prime.

Suga · 07-01-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by techks

Like Barrera was the hungrier man in his fight with Hamed, Pacquiao was hungrier man in his first fight with Barrera.

Exactly

J.R. · 07-01-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by techks

Who can deal with Pacquiao's speed?

JMM dealt with it prety good now didn't he?

Shane W · 07-01-2010, 12:36 PM

Anyone who gets handled by Pac takes an insta old or insta bum pill right before entering the ring. Ask Flomos.

IsaL · 07-01-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by techks

Who can deal with Pacquiao's speed? He's as hyper as a kid on their sugar rush. I do agree MAB wasn't in his physical prime.

Bum 1
Bum 2
Erik Morales
Agapito Sanchez
Juan Manuel Marquez

and I'm sure Floyd Mayweather would too.

Scar · 07-01-2010, 12:44 PM

Yes he was prime. Barrera was coming off wins over Tapia, Kelly, Morales and Hamed, how the HELL can anyone not consider that prime unless you're a bastard cabdriver that doesn't want to give Pac credit?

Barrera was in his prime and got beat badly by someone better.

Scar · 07-01-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UliUli

I think most people that say he was, never saw MAB fight before.

The MAB that fought Pac, Tapia, Kelly, Morales II, was not the same MAB who fought Morales I and prior.

MABs last great performance was CLEARLY Hamed. Just like Morales' last great performance was Pac.

Let me translate for this retarded bastard, for those that don't know this cockroach yet.

"When a Mexican fighter wins, that's his last great prime win. When he loses, he's shot beyond belief, even if he had God on his record a fight before."

charlievint · 07-01-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by techks

I'm no sure if he was but discuss.

I think he was a bit past his PHYSICAL prime but OVERALL the level he was operating at when he faced PAC was when he was at his best. With regards to his experience and the level he was operating on being a little past his prime was less of an issue than him really coming into his own with a style MAB evolved to after the Naz fight. Manny's best win in my opinion simply b/c of where MANNY was as a fighter when he dominated Marco. He wasn't the Manny we see before us today that's for sure. I lost A GRIP on the fight!

Shane W · 07-01-2010, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scar

Let me translate for this retarded bastard, for those that don't know this cockroach yet.

"When a Mexican fighter wins, that's his last great prime win. When he loses, he's shot beyond belief, even if he had God on his record a fight before."

This

charlievint · 07-01-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

JMM dealt with it prety good now didn't he?

He did...

Yet he still lost.

charlievint · 07-01-2010, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shane W

Anyone who gets handled by Pac takes an insta old or insta bum pill right before entering the ring. Ask Flomos.

Zopilote · 07-01-2010, 01:02 PM

Im gonna have to say that Barrera was at his best, maybe not his absolute peak but pretty close. Unprepared maybe, but i wouldn't say he was past it. Only the fighter of the decade could have beat a prime barrera like that, no shame in that at all...Pacmans greatest win, no doubt.

techks · 07-01-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by J.R.

JMM dealt with it prety good now didn't he?

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Originally Posted by UliUli

Bum 1
Bum 2
Erik Morales
Agapito Sanchez
Juan Manuel Marquez

and I'm sure Floyd Mayweather would too.

I WAS JOKING!! lol Can't believe y'all didn't see it through my last sentence, "He's as hyper as a kid on their sugar rush". It's all good though thanks for the comments.

zoo · 07-01-2010, 01:08 PM

He may have been nearing the end of his prime, but he was no doubt still in it. He was 29, comming off great wins, and was universally recognized as the featherweight champ and legit P4P top 5. That win for Pacquaio, and the way he won, was without question one of the greatest accomplishments in all of boxing in the past 10 years.

crimson · 07-01-2010, 01:09 PM

Of course he was. He got beat by Pac but beat Morales after. And only defeat after Pac was a competitive match with peak JMM 3 YEARS AFTER the Pac fight.

It is not even a discussion here.

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Shane W Former Heavyweight ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rayne, LA Posts: 585 vCash: 500	Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao? Anyone who gets handled by Pac takes an insta old or insta bum pill right before entering the ring. Ask Flomos.
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Scar P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,388 vCash: 372	Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao? Yes he was prime. Barrera was coming off wins over Tapia, Kelly, Morales and Hamed, how the HELL can anyone not consider that prime unless you're a bastard cabdriver that doesn't want to give Pac credit? Barrera was in his prime and got beat badly by someone better.
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Zopilote Dinamita East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Middle of Nowhere Posts: 10,126 vCash: 500	Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao? Im gonna have to say that Barrera was at his best, maybe not his absolute peak but pretty close. Unprepared maybe, but i wouldn't say he was past it. Only the fighter of the decade could have beat a prime barrera like that, no shame in that at all...Pacmans greatest win, no doubt.
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zoo Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,010 vCash: 1000	Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao? He may have been nearing the end of his prime, but he was no doubt still in it. He was 29, comming off great wins, and was universally recognized as the featherweight champ and legit P4P top 5. That win for Pacquaio, and the way he won, was without question one of the greatest accomplishments in all of boxing in the past 10 years.
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crimson Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,121 vCash: 500	Re: Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao? Of course he was. He got beat by Pac but beat Morales after. And only defeat after Pac was a competitive match with peak JMM 3 YEARS AFTER the Pac fight. It is not even a discussion here.
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