Macarinelli must feel a right **head now - Page 4

Steve Fox · 11-11-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Claypole

Yep, he's a two faced arse licker who talks absolute crap. He claimed Haye was a natural fighter, unlike Lennox Lewis. He is a gargoyle faced fuckwit.

I think Bunce is scared of pissing Enzo off and having him turn on him. If it did kick off though, my money would be on Macca, despite the obvious step up in class.

Strike · 11-11-2007, 11:22 AM

What the fuck are you lot on about? Haye has said he was moving to Heavy for over a year. He fought at Heavy against Bonin and said "I am having one last fight down at Cruiser against Mormeck". He has not suddenly said he is moving up, were you guys even following his comments and fights this past year?

Enzo is not being dissed for ducking Haye he is being dissed for fighting the likes of Bobby Gunn, for then announcing a bout against Sellers who has been retired for 3 years and is utterly shot, and for hyping Sellers as a huge danger. A fight so disgraceful that the BBBC would not sanction it.

Enzo then announces another no hoper as his next opponent and hypes that too.

He is being mocked because he fights guys like Gunn and trys to make fights like Sellers sound credible
Haye instead fights guys like the Cruiserweight Ring Champion.

bagman · 11-11-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by O Foquinha

He picked Mormeck in 7. The way he talks up his shite opponents is embarrasing...on the other hand Haye doesn't talk...he just fights the top dog and knocks him out in his own backyard. Can the contrast between the 2 be any bigger?
Maca must know deep down he's a bitch-titted, ducking and fruadulent fucker.

Totally agree, Maccarinelli is way too proteced, I think Haye would waste him within 3 rounds.

madpup · 11-11-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stuey

that aint why i am giving enzo shit. he was sitting there so fucking smug predicting haye gets beat saying how he beats both etc...
i am giving him shit because he aint fought no one to be able to back up his bily big bollox attitude.

Exactly!

Macca wouldnt get half that hate if he didnt fight cripples for his title and then talk himself up as the best cruiserweight in the world. Haye at least tries to back up what he says and looks to fight the best.

stake501 · 11-11-2007, 09:42 PM

My prefered method of dealing with Macca is the mute button, and media blackout til he fights someone with a pulse.

I think he has talent (not Haye talent but talent) and a great trainer, but til he steps up I'm not interested.

phonk · 11-12-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O Foquinha

He picked Mormeck in 7. The way he talks up his shite opponents is embarrasing...on the other hand Haye doesn't talk...he just fights the top dog and knocks him out in his own backyard. Can the contrast between the 2 be any bigger?
Maca must know deep down he's a bitch-titted, ducking and fruadulent fucker.

Could'nt have put it better myself.

SouthLondonsFinest · 11-13-2007, 06:06 AM

ta strike, what I was thinking but u can just put it better in words... thks

scurlaruntings · 11-13-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bagman

Totally agree, Maccarinelli is way too proteced, I think Haye would waste him within 3 rounds.

He is a Frank ****** fighter. Frank always does what he does best and thats protect his investments. Mac Haye is a 50 50 bout thats for dam sure.We really need to see what Haye is like up at heavy as the Bonin fight was over to quickly.But if his conditioning gets better up at heavy then Mac is in for a quick night.

scurlaruntings · 11-13-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fluxstuff

Haye/Macca is NOT a 50/50 match-up. Haye would wreck him in 5.

Sure he would.Let me guess because he KO`ed Mormeck right?

Despite this being a fantastic win for Haye there are some GLARING flaws here. Haye is chinny at cruiser and takes right hands leads like there going out of fashion.He doesnt even bring his left up to protect his face. Thats a fundamental 101 in boxing. That doesnt bode well when Mac is a world class puncher in the same ilk as Haye.Both can bang with authority with Haye being a possibly more concussive puncher.Either way with 2 guys that can bang and 1 with glass for whiskers that makes for an even money bout no matter what your bias may tell you.

Loggo · 11-13-2007, 12:32 PM

Can Macranelli take a big shot?He should fight Mormeck over there in Paris(if he`s got the bottle)and we would find out if his chin is any better.Mark Hobson wobbled him a couple of times in their first fight.

Sly · 11-13-2007, 01:43 PM

On the chin issue...

I can guarantee that Enzo Maccarinelli has a worse chin than David Haye. David will be the first to admit his chin is hardly Toney-esque, but find me an example of him being shaken by a shot to the chin. Thompson? No. Mock? Temple. Mormeck? Temple. Twite? Temple.
Fuck it, maybe he has a glass temple. Whatever, the guy can take a shot. He's taken FLUSH shots from Danny Williams, Sultan Ibragimov, Alex Gurov, Kelvin Davis and a ton of other heavyweights in the gym - a lot of the time without headgear.

Maccarinelli is improving all the time, but he's been buzzed plenty in his career. Bruce Scott fucked him up. Swaby obviously, too. Mark Hobson had him going, and Hobson can't punch. Marcelo Dominguez had him gone as well, but Enzo was helped by the bell. When Enzo gets caught clean, there is always a reaction. Just watch the footage.

Strike · 11-13-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Loggo

Can Macranelli take a big shot?He should fight Mormeck over there in Paris(if he`s got the bottle)and we would find out if his chin is any better.Mark Hobson wobbled him a couple of times in their first fight.

Macca cannot take a good shot, he was stopped by Swaby and he was nearly KO'd by Bruce Scott. I watched that fight and Macc was done, but credit came back with a brutal KO win.

But the big issue is that for all his crap fights and his bullshit, Macc has gone away and worked. His defence is 10 times better than it used to be and he has worked on his stamina etc to improve his resistance etc.

Strike · 11-13-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

On the chin issue...

I can guarantee that Enzo Maccarinelli has a worse chin than David Haye. David will be the first to admit his chin is hardly Toney-esque, but find me an example of him being shaken by a shot to the chin. Thompson? No. Mock? Temple. Mormeck? Temple. Twite? Temple.
Fuck it, maybe he has a glass temple. Whatever, the guy can take a shot. He's taken FLUSH shots from Danny Williams, Sultan Ibragimov, Alex Gurov, Kelvin Davis and a ton of other heavyweights in the gym - a lot of the time without headgear.

Hmmm....you must know him, so I am interested when did Gurov crack him on the chin? In their fight he starched Gurov in 1, so unless they sparred I dont see it.

I don't care about chin, temple etc...to me it is punch resistance, yes a temple shot is worse but when Mock has you gone you know you have a shit resistance.
Guys like Tua etc have been caught on the temple and it is not an issue.

scurlaruntings · 11-13-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Strike

Macca cannot take a good shot, he was stopped by Swaby and he was nearly KO'd by Bruce Scott. I watched that fight and Macc was done, but credit came back with a brutal KO win.

But the big issue is that for all his crap fights and his bullshit, Macc has gone away and worked. His defence is 10 times better than it used to be and he has worked on his stamina etc to improve his resistance etc.

Fuck me! Thats a blast from the past! Great bout that was! Bruce nearly upset the Enzo applecart for good.Shame he was too old

stake501 · 11-13-2007, 07:55 PM

i cant believe this argument is going on.......who has Macca beaten? Who

Is there anything to suggest Macca could beat Mormeck....beating braithwaite who had been pretty inactive for two years is the highlight so far...although to be fair its not the deepest division talent wise.....which makes macca lack of ambition even more startling

11-11-2007, 11:22 AM	#47
Strike Rumplestiltskin East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Korea via Manchester Posts: 40,852 vCash: 1667	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** What the fuck are you lot on about? Haye has said he was moving to Heavy for over a year. He fought at Heavy against Bonin and said "I am having one last fight down at Cruiser against Mormeck". He has not suddenly said he is moving up, were you guys even following his comments and fights this past year? Enzo is not being dissed for ducking Haye he is being dissed for fighting the likes of Bobby Gunn, for then announcing a bout against Sellers who has been retired for 3 years and is utterly shot, and for hyping Sellers as a huge danger. A fight so disgraceful that the BBBC would not sanction it. Enzo then announces another no hoper as his next opponent and hypes that too. He is being mocked because he fights guys like Gunn and trys to make fights like Sellers sound credible Haye instead fights guys like the Cruiserweight Ring Champion.
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11-11-2007, 09:42 PM	#50
stake501 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 629 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** My prefered method of dealing with Macca is the mute button, and media blackout til he fights someone with a pulse. I think he has talent (not Haye talent but talent) and a great trainer, but til he steps up I'm not interested.
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SouthLondonsFinest SE4 BABY ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Herne Hill, South East London Posts: 2,422 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** ta strike, what I was thinking but u can just put it better in words... thks
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Loggo Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Britain Posts: 2,021 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** Can Macranelli take a big shot?He should fight Mormeck over there in Paris(if he`s got the bottle)and we would find out if his chin is any better.Mark Hobson wobbled him a couple of times in their first fight. Last edited by Predator13; 09-16-2006 at 08:54 AM.
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11-13-2007, 01:43 PM	#56
Sly Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 245 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** On the chin issue... I can guarantee that Enzo Maccarinelli has a worse chin than David Haye. David will be the first to admit his chin is hardly Toney-esque, but find me an example of him being shaken by a shot to the chin. Thompson? No. Mock? Temple. Mormeck? Temple. Twite? Temple. Fuck it, maybe he has a glass temple. Whatever, the guy can take a shot. He's taken FLUSH shots from Danny Williams, Sultan Ibragimov, Alex Gurov, Kelvin Davis and a ton of other heavyweights in the gym - a lot of the time without headgear. Maccarinelli is improving all the time, but he's been buzzed plenty in his career. Bruce Scott fucked him up. Swaby obviously, too. Mark Hobson had him going, and Hobson can't punch. Marcelo Dominguez had him gone as well, but Enzo was helped by the bell. When Enzo gets caught clean, there is always a reaction. Just watch the footage.
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11-13-2007, 07:55 PM	#60
stake501 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 629 vCash: 1000	Re: Macarinelli must feel a right head now** i cant believe this argument is going on.......who has Macca beaten? Who Is there anything to suggest Macca could beat Mormeck....beating braithwaite who had been pretty inactive for two years is the highlight so far...although to be fair its not the deepest division talent wise.....which makes macca lack of ambition even more startling
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