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Old 08-21-2010, 04:02 PM   #31
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Default Re: Robert Helenius to face Gregory Tony for EBU EU title.

Tony was down what 5 times?
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:07 PM   #32
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Default Re: Robert Helenius to face Gregory Tony for EBU EU title.

Yes Helenius is now proven at this level, he is ready to step up. He has the tools to trouble anyone in the division (exluding Klitchks)
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:42 PM   #33
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Yes Helenius is now proven at this level, he is ready to step up. He has the tools to trouble anyone in the division (exluding Klitchks)
Nice! Gammer, Bidenko, Brewster, Olukun, and now Greg Tony. All solid wins. Definately ready to take a step up.

Dimentrenko?

By the way, how did he look? Did Tony have any moments? Did Helenius look like he is improving?
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Old 08-21-2010, 10:28 PM   #34
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Default Re: Robert Helenius to face Gregory Tony for EBU EU title.

Tony was floored 4 ( 5? ) times but had his moments.
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:29 PM   #35
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Default Re: Robert Helenius to face Gregory Tony for EBU EU title.

If Tony had some moments in the fight, I didnīt see them. Tony was too soft - too unskillful boxingwise - too weak with his punching power compared to Helenius.
Helenius has been developing rapidly like his coach Wegner says and needs a real tester. Sosnowski for example would be a good choice.
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Old 08-22-2010, 01:33 PM   #36
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Default Re: Robert Helenius to face Gregory Tony for EBU EU title.

Any illusion of Tony having moments was created by the slowness and anemic output of Helenius.

He might be one of the slowest-handed fighters active, but his timing and strength were enough for him to completely outclass and destroy Tony (who should stick to kickboxing if anything, but might just be completely shot as an athlete).
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Old 08-22-2010, 05:13 PM   #37
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Any illusion of Tony having moments was created by the slowness and anemic output of Helenius.

He might be one of the slowest-handed fighters active, but his timing and strength were enough for him to completely outclass and destroy Tony (who should stick to kickboxing if anything, but might just be completely shot as an athlete).
His lack of speed is exactly why he routinely had so many dissapointing results as an amateur.

I wish the guy well and have nothing against him but he does not do anything well enough to compensate for his relative lack of speed.
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Old 08-22-2010, 05:42 PM   #38
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His lack of speed is exactly why he routinely had so many dissapointing results as an amateur.

I wish the guy well and have nothing against him but he does not do anything well enough to compensate for his relative lack of speed.
Relative? A Helenius 1-2-3 takes an entire round (one minute per punch).

Kidding aside, though, I also wish him well and respect his strength and the timing and execution of his punches.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:03 AM   #39
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Speedwise Helenius has been evolving in Sauerland during his now 2 year pro-career.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LGh-yH5OYE[/ame] - Hell vs Tony
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5H9uso-chU[/ame] Hell vs Lamon B

He doesnīt have face-breaking jab but his right hand is fast enough and powerful.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:21 AM   #40
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Nice! Gammer, Bidenko, Brewster, Olukun, and now Greg Tony. All solid wins. Definately ready to take a step up.

Dimentrenko?

By the way, how did he look? Did Tony have any moments? Did Helenius look like he is improving?
I'd say he's built up a better resume than Dimitrenko, if anyone who should step up in class its Dimitrenko.

I'll have to take back my comments on Helenius, He is developing.
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