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View Poll Results: Juan Manuel Marquez: Great fighter or All-Time Great fighter?
Yes, I consider him to be an ATG 35 53.85%
No, he's just very good. 30 46.15%
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:24 PM   #91
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Medina was shot when fought Marquez.he was one of those fighters who would keep making brief comebacks and getting decent results when written off, but by this time he really was an old fighter.

I agree in theory he would be the type to make Marquez look less than at his best, but it would have taken a prime medina for that i'd say.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:41 PM   #92
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I haven't scored these fights in a long time. I should really do it today.
Send me your cards once you have and we can compare. Lucky you amigo, two of the best fights of the last decade.
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:10 PM   #93
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Medina was past his best and knocking on a bit, no doubt. I just think that Barrera and Morales are at times given certain concessions in comparison to Marquez that are slightly unfair.
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:36 PM   #94
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Barrera and Morales fought their fair share of old, weathered opponents, but they deserved some rest bite after beating the shit out of one another in 2000. It's a miracle they even went on for as long as they did after that barn burner, the kind of brutal war that changes fighters.
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:07 PM   #95
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niggu why you have o hate on JMM so much, you's a hoe, dont make me show my rec knowledge
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:31 AM   #96
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niggu why you have o hate on JMM so much, you's a hoe, dont make me show my rec knowledge
Very true IT seems like Addie has started a hate crusade against Marquez
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:25 AM   #97
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Very true IT seems like Addie has started a hate crusade against Marquez
Marquez is a great fighter, but he isn't an ATG in my opinion and I think I've explained my reasoning fairly well.
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:06 AM   #98
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Not ATG, but definetly an HOFer

Best combination puncher of recent times.
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:10 AM   #99
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Not ATG, but definetly an HOFer

Best combination puncher of recent times.
Along with Penalosa and Barrera, definitely.
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:15 AM   #100
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Along with Penalosa and Barrera, definitely.

and his little bro Rafa.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:08 AM   #101
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Medina was shot when fought Marquez.he was one of those fighters who would keep making brief comebacks and getting decent results when written off, but by this time he really was an old fighter.

I agree in theory he would be the type to make Marquez look less than at his best, but it would have taken a prime medina for that i'd say.
Shot fighters do not go on to beat a physical beast like Scottie Harrison. Medina's competition was pretty amazing over the years too
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:29 AM   #102
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niggu why you have o hate on JMM so much, you's a hoe, dont make me show my rec knowledge
Addie simply cant stand that Marquez is considered by many a better fighter than MAB.

Addie tries to hide it as much as he can by giving Marquez credit in certain areas.......lately however, it seems that every accomplishment that Marquez has achieved comes with a "but" to him......


Addie, this is the "Classic" section you're posting in.
Everyone can see through, and knows what your agenda is.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:41 AM   #103
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Addie simply cant stand that Marquez is considered by many a better fighter than MAB.
These people don't watch much Boxing so they don't concern me.

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Addie tries to hide it as much as he can by giving Marquez credit in certain areas.......lately however, it seems that every accomplishment that Marquez has achieved comes with a "but" to him......
I like Marquez. I cheered him on in both Pacquiao fights.


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Addie, this is the "Classic" section you're posting in.
Everyone can see through, and knows what your agenda is.
I'm simply posing a question.

Are you not the biggest Marquez fan on these boards? Do you not have an agenda, Divac?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:15 AM   #104
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Addie simply cant stand that Marquez is considered by many a better fighter than MAB.

Addie tries to hide it as much as he can by giving Marquez credit in certain areas.......lately however, it seems that every accomplishment that Marquez has achieved comes with a "but" to him......


Addie, this is the "Classic" section you're posting in.
Everyone can see through, and knows what your agenda is.
You may have a point most of the criticism of JMM is pretty unfair, I'm personally a fan of both, more so of MAB who I rate a little higher, but both have been considered the MAN in 3 weight classes, which is special. How do you rate the 3 Mexicans Divac? I'd go 1. MAB 2. JMM 3. Morales
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:22 AM   #105
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You may have a point most of the criticism of JMM is pretty unfair, I'm personally a fan of both, more so of MAB who I rate a little higher, but both have been considered the MAN in 3 weight classes, which is special. How do you rate the 3 Mexicans Divac? I'd go 1. MAB 2. JMM 3. Morales
What part of my criticism has been unfair, PP?
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