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Old 10-01-2010, 03:05 PM   #16
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Weights are more for short bursts of strength, such as football
Your bodyweight is a weight, dumbass.
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Old 10-01-2010, 03:19 PM   #17
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Your bodyweight is a weight, dumbass.
Holy shit you are retarded! I guess you don't know what a bench press is neither huh?
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Old 10-01-2010, 03:30 PM   #18
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Your bodyweight is a weight, dumbass.
Man, you guys take your bodyweight training seriously!
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Old 10-01-2010, 05:13 PM   #19
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Okay, I would like to see one of you do 2 press ups. but, from the chest on the floor position. While doing it you can only raise an inch every 10 secs, when at the top of the push come down 1inch every 10 secs. Thats Bodyweight exercise . Im waiting .
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Old 10-02-2010, 04:21 AM   #20
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The thing is, as I've said before, most of you don't know **** all about weight training.

If you use weights properly you can only get better at your sport. You cannot get worse, and if you're doing it right you wont even get bigger.

oh and BTW Mayweather, the klitschkos, Haye, Hatton and probably also Pacquio use weights, and most other boxers do too.
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Old 10-02-2010, 06:04 AM   #21
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Onepunch I think you could be right as regards people not understanding weights. I make a good living repairing Sports people, who use them .
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Old 10-02-2010, 06:16 AM   #22
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They would not help your absolute strength like weight training can, however this is not something necessary with boxing anyway. Plyometric pushups, jump squats, burpees, etc. are some of the best exercises that can be done. I feel like a broken record because I post this term nearly every thread on training, but boxing is a speed-strength sport, meaning you have to propel a light object much faster and more explosive, in boxing's case an 8-16oz glove in addition to the rest of the body in your punches(hope that made sense, I'm tired). Therefore fast explosive exercises such as what is listed above with a very minimal weight load can be the best supplement for training a sport such as boxing.

In answering your question, as long as you do not have a severe deficiency in strength, absolute strength that is found in "typical" weight training is not necessary and you can go as far as you wish by training only with bodyweight.
that is a point i have been trying so hard to express to every ****in person in the AMATEUR BOXING section
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Old 10-02-2010, 08:24 AM   #23
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bodyweight training is good when you box. i tried saying this once and got shot down.
most bodyweight exercises can be 'upgraded' to become extremely difficult. i believe they must also improve the general strength of the body as a whole as most trgeted exercises require other parts of the body to work as well, such as keeping your abs tight in push-ups, your back works with pull-ups and chin-ups, etc.
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:20 PM   #24
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The whole idea of weight training (bars/dumbbells) being superior to bodyweight only training is ridiculous.
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Old 10-03-2010, 03:46 PM   #25
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explain yourself.

For building strength weights ARE superior.
For building explosiveness weights ARE superior. (think olympic lifting)
For building muscle there is less of a difference but the general concensus is that weights are superior.

The only thing you may have an advantage using bodyweight with is endurance training. Possibly.
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:25 PM   #26
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I take it no one has heard of planche push ups and one arm pullups?


Bodyweight is extremely beneficial and compliments weight training.

Having said that, your imagination is the only limit to your bodyweight training.

As for explosiveness...well, I don't think dancers and most gymnasts lift weights for their explosiveness.

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Old 10-03-2010, 06:34 PM   #27
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I take it no one has heard of planche push ups and one arm pullups?


Bodyweight is extremely beneficial and compliments weight training.

Having said that, your imagination is the only limit to your bodyweight training.

As for explosiveness...well, I don't think dancers and most gymnasts lift weights for their explosiveness.

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Yep planche pushups are ****ing hardcore. Tried training to do them a couple of years ago and just ended up injuring myself. I got to the point where I could get into the tuck position and hold it for about 10 seconds. The amount of pressure on the shoulders and forearms is immense much harder than anything else I have tried.

One arm pull ups are also pretty hard I can do about 3 reps but don't really train to do them just try them now and again.
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:38 PM   #28
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Yep planche pushups are ****ing hardcore. Tried training to do them a couple of years ago and just ended up injuring myself. I got to the point where I could get into the tuck position and hold it for about 10 seconds. The amount of pressure on the shoulders and forearms is immense much harder than anything else I have tried.
Yup and traps as well, feel the stress. It took me 3 months to do them but....I'm something of a psycho

You can do it as well. You just have to be willing to suffer and fall many many times as i have on my face and bruising my lower spine once from going with too much force with the lower part of my body.
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Old 10-03-2010, 06:49 PM   #29
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Yup and traps as well, feel the stress. It took me 3 months to do them but....I'm something of a psycho

You can do it as well. You just have to be willing to suffer and fall many many times as i have on my face and bruising my lower spine once from going with too much force with the lower part of my body.

I think I will give them another go it's something I have wanted to be able to do for years. It's worth falling on my face a few hundred times to get there.
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If weights are better, why is it all the major Football clubs dont use them now.
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