Tyson v lewis... - Page 6

JOSEY WALES · 10-28-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

I just watched the Thrilla in Manila again last night....as much as I love Tyson he couldn't have done what Smakin' Joe done for 14 rounds against the Greatest(ever)....do yourselves a favor and watch it again....a masterpiece.

Essential viewing , they fought to a virtual standstill in that fight mate .

JOSEY WALES · 10-28-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

....fair go Josey....Bernard has gotta eat too

Behave mate he fought he fought Morrade Hakkar instead for 900,000 U$

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darkhorse · 10-28-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JOSEY WALES

Essential viewing , they fought to a virtual standstill in that fight mate .

That fight is timeless....and also gives a real indication of where some of our modern day fighters sit on the scale of things.
...I think Evander had what it takes to hang with them guys...I'm not so sure about Iron Mike,Lewis or Bowe.

sallywinder · 10-29-2010, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

I just watched the Thrilla in Manila again last night....as much as I love Tyson he couldn't have done what Smakin' Joe done for 14 rounds against the Greatest(ever)....do yourselves a favor and watch it again....a masterpiece.

tyson did what smokin joe did..but, WITH TWO HANDS!!!!!

JOSEY WALES · 10-29-2010, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sallywinder

tyson did what smokin joe did..but, WITH TWO HANDS!!!!!

No fucking way would Tyson last the full 15 with smoking Joe either , Foreman or Larry fucking Holmes for that matter .

Bobby Sinn · 10-29-2010, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

That fight is timeless....and also gives a real indication of where some of our modern day fighters sit on the scale of things.
...I think Evander had what it takes to hang with them guys...I'm not so sure about Iron Mike,Lewis or Bowe.

Agree. Holyfield was 100%

sallywinder · 10-29-2010, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JOSEY WALES

No fucking way would Tyson last the full 15 with smoking Joe either , Foreman or Larry fucking Holmes for that matter .

two fighters emerge from the jungle.....jump in the ring, and have never seen eachother before.....

you may have a case for holmes. but remember, he bashed ali every time they sparred...

frazier had no hope. tyson had two hands, a jab, and was young, fast and a ko artist. joe, like all of them, would have been mugged by tyson, in an 'unseen' fight.

JOSEY WALES · 10-29-2010, 03:12 AM

[quote=sallywinder;8071574]two fighters emerge from the jungle.....jump in the ring, and have never seen eachother before.....

you may have a case for holmes. but remember, he bashed ali every time they sparred...

frazier had no hope. tyson had two hands, a jab, and was young, fast and a ko artist. joe, like all of them, would have been mugged by tyson, in an 'unseen' fight ,

In an unseen fight ? i take by that you mean the old nitty gritty stuff that only old pro's know ? well Sal Joe was a master of those dark arts as he had learn't then over 20 years , when did Tyson have time to learn them ? and why didn't he employ them when Holy was sticking his mallet into his mush ? why the ear chewing if Tyson had the ability to fight an "Unseen fight " mate ? . Frazier smokes Tyson's boots .

darkhorse · 10-29-2010, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sallywinder

tyson did what smokin joe did..but, WITH TWO HANDS!!!!!

not for 15 rounds.

Bobby Sinn · 10-29-2010, 04:24 AM

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not for 15 rounds.

Definately not when on the recieving end either. Frazier's agression and drive is like very few throughout H/W history. Maybe 3 or 4 others were as relentless.. maybe only 2??

TCboxa · 10-29-2010, 04:44 AM

yep, prime tyson smashes prime lewis for sure.

correct me if im wrong but they did try get this fight on when Tyson was in his prime but couldnt make it happen? was it over money or did Tyson go to jail? I think after Jail Mike was never the same fighter again.

darkhorse · 10-29-2010, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Sinn

Definately not when on the recieving end either. Frazier's agression and drive is like very few throughout H/W history. Maybe 3 or 4 others were as relentless.. maybe only 2??

Jose Torres called it the emotional edge....he used the term when describing the difference in the Hagler/Hearns fight....Hagler had it...Hearns didn't....same can be said of Frazier and Tyson....Joe had it...Mike didn't.
In Australia we call it bein' 'a front runner'.

JOSEY WALES · 10-29-2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TCboxa

yep, prime tyson smashes prime lewis for sure.

correct me if im wrong but they did try get this fight on when Tyson was in his prime but couldnt make it happen? was it over money or did Tyson go to jail? I think after Jail Mike was never the same fighter again.

I cant remember that ,besides Lewis was just turning pro when Tyson was at his peak no mention of Lewis v Tyson when Tyson was at his peak . Lewis went the Commonwealth , European title route to ATG status and get there he did imo , does Tyson merit ATG status ? too many wobbles along the way for me , Lewis avenged his too loses , that's a another point ! did Tyson ever do that ? Um NO .

darkhorse · 11-05-2010, 09:21 PM

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If Tyson was at his best do u think he could beat Lewis,me n brother just watched Tyson doco on fox n had a good ole fashioned agruement over this,any thoughts,i rekon Lewis got him past his best perhaps....

a boxing mate told me of a nice little quote from Lewis on this very subject....it went something like this...
...Lewis said that the main difference between him and Iron Mike was that Mike never had a mum like he did...
...that to me says it all.

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JOSEY WALES Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7,250 vCash: 1000	Re: Tyson v lewis... [quote=sallywinder;8071574]two fighters emerge from the jungle.....jump in the ring, and have never seen eachother before..... you may have a case for holmes. but remember, he bashed ali every time they sparred... frazier had no hope. tyson had two hands, a jab, and was young, fast and a ko artist. joe, like all of them, would have been mugged by tyson, in an 'unseen' fight , In an unseen fight ? i take by that you mean the old nitty gritty stuff that only old pro's know ? well Sal Joe was a master of those dark arts as he had learn't then over 20 years , when did Tyson have time to learn them ? and why didn't he employ them when Holy was sticking his mallet into his mush ? why the ear chewing if Tyson had the ability to fight an "Unseen fight " mate ? . Frazier smokes Tyson's boots .
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TCboxa Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: OLYMPUS Posts: 9,662 vCash: 300	Re: Tyson v lewis... yep, prime tyson smashes prime lewis for sure. correct me if im wrong but they did try get this fight on when Tyson was in his prime but couldnt make it happen? was it over money or did Tyson go to jail? I think after Jail Mike was never the same fighter again.
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