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Old 11-15-2010, 02:42 AM   #46
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Alf Blatch got knocked out by Henry Armstrong in 1937...He wins.

We have a winner.

I must admit that Marquez is better than anyone Tszyu ever fought. Excluding Chavez who was way past his best when they fought.
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Old 11-15-2010, 02:44 AM   #47
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My point is. I think Katsidis as an Australian fighter is fighting the toughest 'in form' P4P fight an Australian has fought even surpassing Kostya. (roy jones was in rip form when talking of green)

I went through Kostyas list and though yep Sharmba Mitchell, Ricky Hattno, Zab Judah, all great fighters, but not as great as Juan Manuel Marquez in MY opinion.

your thoughts? and can also bring up other aussie fighters in recent times if you like.
Between all the fights over the years and all the Champs beaten by Aussie boxers.

I will state this fight is as big as it gets.

And probably the biggest and best opponent a Aussie fighter has fought since

Rose v Harada

So if Katsidis wins this for me it will be one of the greatest wins by a Aussie of all time.
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Old 11-15-2010, 03:19 AM   #48
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agreed.
hope he wins but a huge ask. still chris john beat marquez even if it was in indo and katsidis hits harder than chris
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:14 PM   #49
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Its an interesting thought. Australians have fought some great fighters near the top of their game throughout history though. Three of the greatest world champions in their respective weight classes reigned in the 1970s and three Aussies challeneged them (Hector Thompson challenged Duran, Tony Mundine challenged Monzon and Paul Fererri challenged Carlos Zarate). Archie Moore toured Australia during his prime and fought a number of top Australians including Ron Richards and Fred Henneberry. Lionel Rose dethroned Fighting Harada, one of the greatest Asian fighters of all-time. Glen Kelly and Shannan Taylor fought Shane MOsley and Roy Jones jnr at the time when they were both considered in the top three at the very least P4P.
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Hector Thompson challenged Duran
Amazing it got 4 pages before this one was mentioned.
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Old 11-16-2010, 11:09 PM   #51
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Amazing it got 4 pages before this one was mentioned.
I dont know if anyone else mentioned the massive win

Dave Sands had over Bobo Olson. That and the Rose win over Harada are probably the two biggest wins.

So if Rocky pulls this one off its up there with them for me.
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Old 11-17-2010, 12:13 AM   #52
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Sands actually beat Olson twice- once in sydney - once in chicago. i'VE JUST BEEN reading about it in Ray Wheatley's new book - The GReatest Vol 2. Even though he beat Olson in America the crowd and all the reporters thought he was pretty ordinary and sugar ray robinson bagged him.

You can watch the fight here.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHnEQ0sEtnE[/ame]
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