Freddie Roach explains his catchweights strategy

[Starched Him]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

Marquez was coming up from 135. Pacquiao had just fought at 147 the fight before. Matter fact they wanted Mosley at 143 because he was too "good" so I guess it's the same concept with Floyd

Your wrong buddy

they wanted Mosley at 140 and he was going to do it
Roids eats the brain cells apparantly
because he just came off his big win against margo
how you just weigh 147 and gonna cut to 140?
Fuck that
anyway they declined mosley then

[Starched Him]

Originally Posted by Gander Tasco

Also you don't think Floyd fights guys who he's certain he can beat? Baldo, Gatti, Mitchell, Corley, Judah, Hatton. He'll fight them when their "C-class club fighters" but when it came down to a younger/fresher Mosley, and a prime Margarito / Cotto, he ran off into retirement.

LMAO Cotto is a class above gatti for 1 RIP
2 cotto almost got KOd by Corley and Judah (I know Corley rocked Floyd but he didnt almost knock the fucking guy out)
3 Mayweather called mosley out in 96 and 99
and when mosley called mayweather out he refused because he said that you will say he is too old

Floyd is very smart he predicted this shit lol

[Starched Him]

Originally Posted by rocky538

Damn people still think Arum would let Pac fight Floyd, but he's clearly ducking Marquez to fight an old man 2 years removed from his last win.

I like how everyone Floyd supposedly ducks at his own weight is promoted by none other than Bobby Arum.

Dosent matter if You watched Marquez last fight you will see that Marquez cant compete with Pac anymore

Pac is fucking huge now he will come in the damn ring at 148 and hurt marquez
Shane is the faster fighter more of a target not much of a counter puncher(caught floyd good tho) but he is atleast use to getting hit with bombs Marquez is not
only time he was hit by a big guy was when he hit mayweather clean and mayweather smiled(he fucking smiled) and came back with that left hook
and dropped him and left him alone the rest of the fight
he hits pac like that and pac WILL NOT FIGHT TO THE COMPETETION LIKE MAYWEATHER DOES PAC WILL BE TRYING TO HURT HIM and he will
let marquez clean 140 leave pac alone Pac is too good for Marquez now


think about this! if marquez had this much trouble with pac when he was still learning how to keep his balance and learn how to throw a fucking hook what the hell kind of shit you think JMM is going to be in when he steps in the ring with Pac weighing 148 who has mastered his screwed up but effective style?

let mosley fight him atleast he has a fucking chance with his hand speed and his punching power

[Starched Him]

Originally Posted by Gander Tasco

Pac hda just moved up to welter. He wasn't really proven at the weight. Freddie was hesistant to throw him in there with a big guy like Margo or Mosley at that time.

Explain to me: how was Oscar, Cotto and Hatton cherry picks? Even if you could make a case that Margo and Clottey were cherry picks, those are some of the toughest most avoided welters out there. Freddie just talks a lot.

freddy did what cotto camp did you know the reason why you say floyd avoided him? he kept him away from certain people until he felt he was ready

cotto wasnt a cherry pick I wish cotto couldv fought at 147 but hes a b class fighter dosent tell me much about pac beside he is an A+ fighter
Margo wasnt a cherry pick he just slow as shit good match making pac just showed he is an A+ fighter by beating another B fighter
clottey how the fuck do you even rate this fucking guy? i dont know shane didnt even want to fight him and he fights everybody fuck clottey can we forget that he even faught please?

Hatton I liked because he is rugged and he got up after floyd check hooked him good heart no brain dosent listen to trainer

Oscar they did him so dirty but I guess he knew what the hell he was getting into for %5 of Pacs money for the rest of hsi career so fuck it I woulda drained too

theirs issues with all this cherry picking is here but again its not main thing is roach drained everybody and he babied Pac but Pac needed it what if they didnt feed vargas to Tito so soon? what if they didnt feed Ortiz to Madaina? what if they Pac was done that way and fed to Oscar at Oscars weight class you get the same Oscar that fought Floyd Game Over

[CoDer]

Oh so this same idiots who said ODH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, & Margarito will destroy Pacman now sings a different tune.

Yeah Manny is ducking JMM, fought a shot Barrera and Morales and Diaz was a paper champion.

And Floyd is a GOAT that he has to ask for OSDT to level the playing field right?
And Floyd shows superb boxing skills in the likes of fatso JMM, and grandpa Mosley?

And from time to time this same idiots will pop-out random video showing Manny get knocked down/out when he was at the lower weight with no solid trainer.

what a bunch of imbecile.

[floyd_g.o.a.t]

Originally Posted by CoDer

Oh so this same idiots who said ODH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, & Margarito will destroy Pacman now sings a different tune.

Yeah Manny is ducking JMM, fought a shot Barrera and Morales and Diaz was a paper champion.

And Floyd is a GOAT that he has to ask for OSDT to level the playing field right?
And Floyd shows superb boxing skills in the likes of fatso JMM, and grandpa Mosley?

And from time to time this same idiots will pop-out random video showing Manny get knocked down/out when he was at the lower weight with no solid trainer.

what a bunch of imbecile.

After this post im sure we all know who the real Imbecile here is

[arsabs]

joy boys should follow what Floyd is doing, go on vacation. your more obsessed with team Pac than their fans are.

[bballchump11]

Originally Posted by Starched Him

Your wrong buddy

they wanted Mosley at 140 and he was going to do it
Roids eats the brain cells apparantly
because he just came off his big win against margo
how you just weigh 147 and gonna cut to 140?
Fuck that
anyway they declined mosley then

damn that's pretty messed up. I'm glad Mosley didn't do that. mosley has never fought at 140 in his life

[FORMIDABLE]

Originally Posted by Starched Him

what if they Pac was done that way and fed to Oscar at Oscars weight class you get the same Oscar that fought Floyd Game Over

LOL, a small guy with one fight at 135 jumping straight to 154 to face a big jr middleweight? Yeah, that would've been logical. Can't believe Oscar didn't think of that, seeing as he was the promoter and called all the shots to make the fight.

People are choosing to forget Oscar was 150 for Forbes and was planning on fighting at 147 and maybe even lower, as he was looking for a fight with Hatton after the Mayweather rematch. Oscar only had to give up 3lbs, whereas Pac had to go up 2 divisions. Clearly a massive cherry pick. That's why the fight was seen as a mismatch.

[Real_Truth]

I don't understand...you guys say that Pac is a cherry picker, so that means he's not that good right? So why the fuck is Mayweather so scared of the guy? You guys say that Mayweather wants OSDT cuz he doesn't want to get hurt. That's fucking contradicting you fucking morons. Pac has shown enough to scare that pussy idol of yours. So the more you play Pac down, the bigger a pussy Mayweather looks.

[bballchump11]

Originally Posted by real_truth

i don't understand...you guys say that pac is a cherry picker, so that means he's not that good right? So why the fuck is mayweather so scared of the guy? You guys say that mayweather wants osdt cuz he doesn't want to get hurt. That's fucking contradicting you fucking morons. Pac has shown enough to scare that pussy idol of yours. So the more you play pac down, the bigger a pussy mayweather looks.

fail

[Real_Truth]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

fail

The truth normally does to you dumbasses Ducking a cherry picker?! What a fucking pussy!!!

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[bballchump11]

Originally Posted by Real_Truth

The truth normally does to you dumbasses Ducking a cherry picker?! What a fucking pussy!!!

/ thread

We already gone over the who's ducking who. Floyd wanted the fight, but also wanted the drug testing. To say he proposed the drug testing in an attempt to duck Manny is stupid, because how would he know Manny was such a pussy he can't take a needle plus Timothy Bradley and Marquez said back in December of 2009 that they would make Pacquiao take a drug test also, but I'm assuming they retracted that now since they're fighting so hard not to take it. I know it wasn't Floyd who was avoiding the fight when he offered a 14 day cutoff.
Even if Floyd was ducking Manny, what you said still makes no sense. You can be good and still cherry pick. Floyd doesn't want the test because Manny is too good. Shane sure as hell wasn't too good

[Real_Truth]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

We already gone over the who's ducking who. Floyd wanted the fight, but also wanted the drug testing. To say he proposed the drug testing in an attempt to duck Manny is stupid, because how would he know Manny was such a pussy he can't take a needle plus Timothy Bradley and Marquez said back in December of 2009 that they would make Pacquiao take a drug test also, but I'm assuming they retracted that now since they're fighting so hard not to take it. I know it wasn't Floyd who was avoiding the fight when he offered a 14 day cutoff.
Even if Floyd was ducking Manny, what you said still makes no sense. You can be good and still cherry pick. Floyd doesn't want the test because Manny is too good. Shane sure as hell wasn't too good

Why does he want to do random drug test on a cherry picker again? I mean Pac only wins by cherry picking, and Floyd would easily kick his ass, why all the hoopla? I mean to stop an easy fight worth $40 fucking million just because you want to drug test(something he hasn't asked for his whole career) a pushover? Please tell me how that makes sense?

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