could fernando vargas beat paul williams or sergio martinez?

[lefthook31]

Yes he could beat both at his best

[anarci]

Originally Posted by Blood Green

I have serious doubts that Williams would get as badly hurt against Flores and Quartey. I also don't see ODLH turning him into a bobble head doll. I'll give Vargas a pass versus Trinidad, but the rest of his career also seemed to feature him eating punches and not taking them very well.

Vargas would be at an athletic and chin disadvantage against Williams and Martinez, and I'd expect it show.

Well i attended his fight with Quartey(and watched it again on tape) and never ever recall Quartey hurting him Shibata either(maybe your thinking Rivera?).... And i definitely can see ODLH turning Williams head into a bobble head and Vargas was athletic, he might not have been no Jones in that department but he had some fast hands and when he wanted good lateral movement... That being said though i do give Williams a better chance than most here. Im gonna go with Vargas by close decision or possible late stoppage.... Against Martinez i might go with Martinez especially at MW(where Vargas wasnt as fast or sharp)..... AT JM this is a one helluva a close matchup(maybe Pickem) but at MW im gonna go with Martinez maybe even by late stoppage.

[mister]

with ease vargas is a much better all round fighter than these guys and if vargas makes a comeback i see no reason why he would not be able to capture the title