Apartheid-Era South African Heavyweights - Page 2

bodhi · 03-09-2011, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by D.T

bodhi.. you aren't even South African and don't kow the history of the country so why you arguing?

Of course I don´t know the history. That´s why I got it right and you wrong.

D.T · 03-09-2011, 03:13 PM

you got it right? Since when? You just expressed your opinion...

bodhi · 03-09-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by D.T

you got it right? Since when? You just expressed your opinion...

No, I wrote what I read.

Vantage_West · 03-09-2011, 06:55 PM

Nkosana Mgxaji
maxwell malinga

Mendoza · 03-09-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bummy Davis

There was strong Big Dutch Heavyweights out of South Africa and they dominated the continent. I think they could have had a better chance with earlier training and good coaches...When Jackie McCoy got Coetzee he improved him (left hook) Kallie Knoetzee had power but did not develop stamina..Sanders had fast hands and could punch but was not dedicated to the sport...but I ALWAYS FELT HE WAS DANGEROUS BUT AVOIDED...COETZEE had a serious right hand decent speed, he beat Snipes(dropped him 2 times) but Snipes got the title shot....also KO'd Spinks in 1 rd. and KO'd Dokes for the title...another dangerous and avoided guy

Most of the whites in South Africa is descendent's of the English, and Dutch. The average Dutch man is 6' tall, and rather friendly. However put a minority group in a charged atmosphere and they are going to produce some quality fighters.

Il Duce · 03-09-2011, 08:58 PM

Louis Hendricks,,,,,,,,a decent heavyweight hopeful

How about the South African Heavyweight Killer,
American,,,,,Mike Koranicki

He beat 4 or 5 of those guys.

boza81 · 03-10-2011, 02:25 AM

Black south african fighters got opportunities during apartheid. Peter Mathebula won the WBA flyweight title in 1980. For some reason they had alot of good lighterweight black fighters, but not black heavyweights. The Aparthied situation in South Africa was complicated politically and sociologically. The whites developed South Africa economically and blacks moved there from other countries in the southern part of africa to work there because they could get a better economic standard of living there then where they were from. It was similar to the southern blacks in the U.S. moving to the northern cities for manufacturing jobs. Eventually, the black population greatly out numbered the white population. In order to hold power, the whites instigated aparthied. If they had free elections, of course, they would have lost. They didn't want to give up what they had built. Imagine if the whites in the U.S. or some European county had been outnumbered by the blacks or indians. What do you think they would have done? I'm not saying it was right but sometimes you have to look from some one else's point of view.

zadfrak · 03-10-2011, 04:36 AM

Another guy not mentioned was Mike Bernardo. He was a prospect at one time just like the others. Kind of like a Tshabalala. On the rise. The next thing you knew, he was out of the sport and went to kickboxing. Big surprise at the time and he was a guy that was an up and comer and a guy to watch, like the others already mentioned. Then he was gone and it wasn't after a loss or anything, if memory serves correct. He may have been the first legit prospect or heavy anyway, to give up boxing to pursue kickboxing.

Anyone know the full story with him? Kind of like a south african Lee Canalito---remember him as a prospect?

Bummy Davis · 03-10-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by zadfrak

Another guy not mentioned was Mike Bernardo. He was a prospect at one time just like the others. Kind of like a Tshabalala. On the rise. The next thing you knew, he was out of the sport and went to kickboxing. Big surprise at the time and he was a guy that was an up and comer and a guy to watch, like the others already mentioned. Then he was gone and it wasn't after a loss or anything, if memory serves correct. He may have been the first legit prospect or heavy anyway, to give up boxing to pursue kickboxing.

Anyone know the full story with him? Kind of like a south african Lee Canalito---remember him as a prospect?

yea some of these guys slipped off the boxing planet,Lee(the Italian Stallion) Canalito acually beat a couple of good journeyman and may have been good but Sly Stallone put him in an acting direction,and he lost a potential big match, Lee was 6"5 and 245, big for the time...Bernardo KO'd Peter McNeely in 1 then vanished

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Il Duce Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,494 vCash: 500	Re: Apartheid-Era South African Heavyweights Louis Hendricks,,,,,,,,a decent heavyweight hopeful How about the South African Heavyweight Killer, American,,,,,Mike Koranicki He beat 4 or 5 of those guys.
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boza81 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Annandale, VA (USA) Posts: 200 vCash: 500	Re: Apartheid-Era South African Heavyweights Black south african fighters got opportunities during apartheid. Peter Mathebula won the WBA flyweight title in 1980. For some reason they had alot of good lighterweight black fighters, but not black heavyweights. The Aparthied situation in South Africa was complicated politically and sociologically. The whites developed South Africa economically and blacks moved there from other countries in the southern part of africa to work there because they could get a better economic standard of living there then where they were from. It was similar to the southern blacks in the U.S. moving to the northern cities for manufacturing jobs. Eventually, the black population greatly out numbered the white population. In order to hold power, the whites instigated aparthied. If they had free elections, of course, they would have lost. They didn't want to give up what they had built. Imagine if the whites in the U.S. or some European county had been outnumbered by the blacks or indians. What do you think they would have done? I'm not saying it was right but sometimes you have to look from some one else's point of view.
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03-10-2011, 04:36 AM	#23
zadfrak Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,108 vCash: 1000	Re: Apartheid-Era South African Heavyweights Another guy not mentioned was Mike Bernardo. He was a prospect at one time just like the others. Kind of like a Tshabalala. On the rise. The next thing you knew, he was out of the sport and went to kickboxing. Big surprise at the time and he was a guy that was an up and comer and a guy to watch, like the others already mentioned. Then he was gone and it wasn't after a loss or anything, if memory serves correct. He may have been the first legit prospect or heavy anyway, to give up boxing to pursue kickboxing. Anyone know the full story with him? Kind of like a south african Lee Canalito---remember him as a prospect?
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