Muhammad Ali 1974 v Pinklon Thomas 1984

Stevie G · 03-15-2011, 08:48 AM

The best 70's version of Ali v the best ever Pinklon Thomas. Pinkie was quite a formidable fighter,at his best. Like a lot of other heavies of his time though,he blew up Thomas would have his moments,but I take Ali to score a clearcut points verdict. Too fast and too tough.

Stevie G · 03-15-2011, 01:12 PM

No takers ?

THE EXPERT · 03-15-2011, 02:30 PM

I think it is a no-brainer honestly. I agree that Thomas was formidable at the time but I believe it was due to the state of the heavyweight division at that time. Thomas did have the second best jab in the division though (after Holmes). Ali in seventy-four was still good enought to beat most great heavyweights in history, if not all of them. The Ali that beat Foreman would simply out box and out class Thomas. Thomas would be lucky to win one round.

goat15 · 03-15-2011, 02:37 PM

i'd take '74-'75 ali over pretty much anyone. in some ways that version is better head to head than sixties ali. the heart, chin and mental strength of ali in the mid-seventies was off the charts, even if his reflexes and footspeed had long since been on the wane.

Kalasinn · 03-15-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevie G

The best 70's version of Ali v the best ever Pinklon Thomas. Pinkie was quite a formidable fighter,at his best. Like a lot of other heavies of his time though,he blew up Thomas would have his moments,but I take Ali to score a clearcut points verdict. Too fast and too tough.

I agree with your prediction.

Peak Thomas was very good, but he would need to be facing Post-Manila Ali to win i reckon.

Abdullah · 03-15-2011, 03:19 PM

Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.

Kalasinn · 03-15-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah

Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.

Nice story.

You should add Thomas on Facebook, i did.

By the way, Pink was bald even in late '88 when he fought Holy.

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Stevie G · 03-16-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Abdullah

Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.

I heard that Thomas played Sonny Liston in a documentary some years back.

red cobra · 03-16-2011, 09:47 AM

What would have happened if Thomas had used a similar strategy to Norton's? Pink had a superior jab than Norton's.

Stevie G · 03-16-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by red cobra

What would have happened if Thomas had used a similar strategy to Norton's? Pink had a superior jab than Norton's.

But Norton was better,all round,than Thomas.

Stevie G · 03-16-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by THE EXPERT

I think it is a no-brainer honestly. I agree that Thomas was formidable at the time but I believe it was due to the state of the heavyweight division at that time. Thomas did have the second best jab in the division though (after Holmes). Ali in seventy-four was still good enought to beat most great heavyweights in history, if not all of them. The Ali that beat Foreman would simply out box and out class Thomas. Thomas would be lucky to win one round.

I certainly agree that this version of Ali would be a handfull for any peak all time great.

ThinBlack · 03-16-2011, 03:50 PM

Ali had to much skill for even this version of Pinklon Thomas.Muhammad by unanimous decision.

03-16-2011, 08:01 PM

Pinklon by split decision .
it is 1 close fight , but the jab does the job for pinklon , which foreman did ,
not have .

Jorodz · 03-16-2011, 08:04 PM

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Pinklon by split decision .
it is 1 close fight , but the jab does the job for pinklon , which foreman did ,
not have .

while i may not agree an intelligent, measured jab was damn effective against post zaire (and pre zaire) ali. norton, lyle (for long stretches) and others were able to win rounds while ali lacked the speed and zip of his 60s version

Liechhardt · 03-17-2011, 04:05 AM

Ali by near shut out. Pink had a great jab and the style but he was no Norton.

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THE EXPERT Journeyman Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 87 vCash: 500	Re: Muhammad Ali 1974 v Pinklon Thomas 1984 I think it is a no-brainer honestly. I agree that Thomas was formidable at the time but I believe it was due to the state of the heavyweight division at that time. Thomas did have the second best jab in the division though (after Holmes). Ali in seventy-four was still good enought to beat most great heavyweights in history, if not all of them. The Ali that beat Foreman would simply out box and out class Thomas. Thomas would be lucky to win one round.
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goat15 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,477 vCash: 500	Re: Muhammad Ali 1974 v Pinklon Thomas 1984 i'd take '74-'75 ali over pretty much anyone. in some ways that version is better head to head than sixties ali. the heart, chin and mental strength of ali in the mid-seventies was off the charts, even if his reflexes and footspeed had long since been on the wane.
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Abdullah Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 4,087 vCash: 500	Re: Muhammad Ali 1974 v Pinklon Thomas 1984 Ali would win fairly clearly, I would say. I don't underestimate Pink either. He was a damn good heavyweight in '84. Last I heard, he was a jail guard. A good friend of mine got into some trouble about 9 years ago and did some time down in south Florida. Pink was one of the guards. Of course, my friend didn't know who he was, but said that "Pink" talked about fighting Tyson. I think Thomas is bald now.
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sirhenrycooper6 Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Muhammad Ali 1974 v Pinklon Thomas 1984 Pinklon by split decision . it is 1 close fight , but the jab does the job for pinklon , which foreman did , not have .
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