who is the greatest of all time? vote. - Page 4

goat15 · 03-23-2011, 10:16 AM

i'm very curious as to who the sixteen 'other' votes are for. some have said that they voted for joe louis and benny leonard. anyone else?

dmille · 03-23-2011, 10:21 AM

Moore, who lost 3 of 3 to Charles, but no flys or bantams?

goat15 · 03-23-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dmille

Moore, who lost 3 of 3 to Charles

yeah, i tried my best to include those who i thought had the best chance of being named 'the greatest'. moore has the unique longevity and ko record. perhaps i should have included louis instead...

Beatle · 03-23-2011, 04:14 PM

Marvin Hagler took on all comers, and beat them all.

Robinson ducked Charley Burley. Can you imagine what Hagler (of the Hearns fight) would have done to prime Robinson? Maybe Ray would have lasted a few more rounds, but Hagler would have decimated him.

Swarmer · 03-23-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Beatle

Marvin Hagler took on all comers, and beat them all.

Robinson ducked Charley Burley. Can you imagine what Hagler (of the Hearns fight) would have done to prime Robinson? Maybe Ray would have lasted a few more rounds, but Hagler would have decimated him.

Lose?

Bill Butcher · 03-23-2011, 05:24 PM

Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest & best p4p fighter that ever lived... he wins every vote outside of ESB & is actually winning this one too... & by a landslide at that.

Bill Butcher · 03-23-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Beatle

Marvin Hagler took on all comers, and beat them all.

Robinson ducked Charley Burley. Can you imagine what Hagler (of the Hearns fight) would have done to prime Robinson? Maybe Ray would have lasted a few more rounds, but Hagler would have decimated him.

The MW Robinson that beat Lamotta for the title would beat any version of Hagler, he was much faster, hit harder with either hand & - sorry to bring you back to reality - was just a better fighter than Hagler, period.

goat15 · 03-23-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beatle

Can you imagine what Hagler (of the Hearns fight) would have done to prime Robinson? Maybe Ray would have lasted a few more rounds, but Hagler would have decimated him.

this was exactly the type of fight robinson loved.

Seamus · 03-23-2011, 05:52 PM

I went for Langford but it can change sometimes. Greb is pretty unbelievable, too. Where is Maske?

Seamus · 03-23-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Swarmer

Lose?

Hah!

I think Monzon would beat Hagler, too, and Hagler is one of my favorites in my favorite division.

teeto · 03-23-2011, 05:55 PM

I can't say Hagler definitely beats Robinson but I think he has a fantastic chance.

I voted for Robinson

Boilermaker · 03-23-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by goat15

i'm very curious as to who the sixteen 'other' votes are for. some have said that they voted for joe louis and benny leonard. anyone else?

Wladimir Klitchsko?

goat15 · 03-23-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boilermaker

Wladimir Klitchsko?

i'm just wondering how many of the 'other' votes are for the same guy... but then i'm sure even if i'd left archie moore or ezzard charles off the poll (the fighters with the fewest votes) there still would have been an uproar!

Boilermaker · 03-23-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Butcher

The MW Robinson that beat Lamotta for the title would beat any version of Hagler, he was much faster, hit harder with either hand & - sorry to bring you back to reality - was just a better fighter than Hagler, period.

The same version who less than 12 months later couldnt beat Randy Turpin? Do you think Turpin would beat Hagler also?

eslubin · 03-23-2011, 06:26 PM

It's gotta be Langford! He's proof that title don't make a champion. Look at all the belts some bums had! Robinson was good but he was taken in hand early and had a carefully crafted path to follow to the top. At the end of the day Robinson is still a fancy dan. Langford never relied on tremendous boxing skills he did have & beat someone going backwards. He was a killer and loved to fight the hardest punchers, the slickest boxers, the most courageous men. He was wide open. The new film of the Jeannette fight cements all the myths as true!

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View Poll Results: who achieved the most, pound for pound?
Ali	23	11.86%
Armstrong	9	4.64%
Charles	2	1.03%
Fitzsimmons	8	4.12%
Greb	30	15.46%
Langford	7	3.61%
Moore	0	0%
Pep	5	2.58%
Robinson	85	43.81%
Other	25	12.89%
Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll

03-23-2011, 10:16 AM	#46
goat15 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,477 vCash: 500	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. i'm very curious as to who the sixteen 'other' votes are for. some have said that they voted for joe louis and benny leonard. anyone else?
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03-23-2011, 10:21 AM	#47
dmille Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,907 vCash: 1000	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. Moore, who lost 3 of 3 to Charles, but no flys or bantams?
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03-23-2011, 04:14 PM	#49
Beatle Sheer Analysis ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,297 vCash: 1337	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. Marvin Hagler took on all comers, and beat them all. Robinson ducked Charley Burley. Can you imagine what Hagler (of the Hearns fight) would have done to prime Robinson? Maybe Ray would have lasted a few more rounds, but Hagler would have decimated him.
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Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Phoenix Marie`s ass, Fritzl Residence, Glasgow, Scotland. Posts: 15,580 vCash: 1000	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest & best p4p fighter that ever lived... he wins every vote outside of ESB & is actually winning this one too... & by a landslide at that.
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03-23-2011, 05:52 PM	#54
Seamus Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lisboa, Portugal Posts: 10,099 vCash: 1000	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. I went for Langford but it can change sometimes. Greb is pretty unbelievable, too. Where is Maske?
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03-23-2011, 05:55 PM	#56
teeto Next Level Predictions East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Team Ireland Manor, Easing Pabuiao into the life of managing the GOAT Posts: 33,956 vCash: 1000	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. I can't say Hagler definitely beats Robinson but I think he has a fantastic chance. I voted for Robinson
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03-23-2011, 06:26 PM	#60
eslubin Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California Posts: 286 vCash: 500	Re: who is the greatest of all time? vote. It's gotta be Langford! He's proof that title don't make a champion. Look at all the belts some bums had! Robinson was good but he was taken in hand early and had a carefully crafted path to follow to the top. At the end of the day Robinson is still a fancy dan. Langford never relied on tremendous boxing skills he did have & beat someone going backwards. He was a killer and loved to fight the hardest punchers, the slickest boxers, the most courageous men. He was wide open. The new film of the Jeannette fight cements all the myths as true! [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgyiLLaLXcY[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TroTAs25RkU[/ame] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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