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Old 03-24-2011, 10:22 AM   #1
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Default Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

he became lineal when he beat baldomir and mosley who both held the lineal welterweight championship if you track it back to the 90's.

Also is Mayweather the only guy to hold the WBC title in 5 weight divisions? most say the WBC next to the ring magazine is the highest ranked championship of the soup titles
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

Leonard beat Benitez, then beat Duran in their rematch. Both for the linear welterweight title.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:34 AM   #3
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

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he became lineal when he beat baldomir and mosley who both held the lineal welterweight championship if you track it back to the 90's.

Also is Mayweather the only guy to hold the WBC title in 5 weight divisions? most say the WBC next to the ring magazine is the highest ranked championship of the soup titles
Dang who is that in your avatar? I don't know if Mosley counts as lineal. The last lineal champ was Floyd before he retired. Floyd is the first fighter to win 5 WBC titles though.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:54 AM   #4
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I don't think Mosley was lineal champ though, he was ranked number 1 but not the champ.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:58 AM   #5
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

Technically Mosley was not the lineal champ. I think they were seriously thinking about making Mosley-Margarito for the lineal title but it didnt happen for some reason. I believe he should have been since Margo cleaned house at 147 and Mosley beat him but technically technically he wasnt.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:03 AM   #6
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

Mosley was clearly the lineal champ. The only reason at the time of Cotto-Margo not to call the winner lineal champ was that Mosley was around so they weren't clearly no1 and no2, but then Shane beat the winner of that fight so it's hard to argue with it - he was the lineal champ.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:08 AM   #7
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

Mosley, was clearly the linear champ at the time Floyd fought him.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:09 AM   #8
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Lloyd the Ragamuffin Man Honeyghan was a 2 time Linear Welterweight champion of the world and was the undisputed Welterweight champion of the world when he destroyed the great Don Curry.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:14 AM   #9
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

No, he's not even close to the record also.

Jack Britton, Billy Conn and Ted Lewis in the early 1900's all won the lineal title (there was only one ) multiple times by beating eachother over and over again. I don't know how much exactly, but I believe Britton had the most (6 or something).

edit: don't know how I got Billy Conn (he was a LHW ) mixed into this, it was another hall of famer don't know wich one.

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Old 03-24-2011, 11:20 AM   #10
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

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he became lineal when he beat baldomir and mosley who both held the lineal welterweight championship if you track it back to the 90's.

Also is Mayweather the only guy to hold the WBC title in 5 weight divisions? most say the WBC next to the ring magazine is the highest ranked championship of the soup titles
Not sure about that, the WBC is somewhat a joke at the minute. Same with the WBA. I guess the WBO and IBF aren't much better either but I think they're the superior titles at the minute personally.

As stated Leonard is a two time linear welterweight champion. Jose Napoles was a three time linear champion I believe.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:33 AM   #11
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I don't think Mosley was lineal champ though, he was ranked number 1 but not the champ.
He wasn't even ranked number 1. He was number 2. I'm talking about the ring rankings of course.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:41 AM   #12
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Here's your answer right here. Yep Floyd is the linear TWICE!

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Old 03-24-2011, 11:56 AM   #13
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

as robney said, even if floyd was MANY other fighters were lineal twice before him. mosley wasn't lineal but his fight with floyd COULD have been for that right. not sure to be honest, but it's been done before
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:10 PM   #14
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

If Floyd wasn't so overly concerned about his "0", he might even have been 3 or 4 times the lineal welter champ by now. If he just fought his opponents instead of talking about them, and take a loss here and there.
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:20 PM   #15
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Default Re: Is Floyd Mayweather the only two time 'lineal' welterweight champion in history?

Nope. Mosley wasn't lineal, no matter if he became the number 1 guy. Floyd never really retired so he kept it.
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