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Old 03-31-2011, 06:29 PM   #16
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Helwani's nose is getting browner by the minute
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Old 04-04-2011, 08:28 AM   #17
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Frist of all, I have confirmed that I was not the only one purged from the Zombie Strikeforce media list. So was Loretta Hunt, who had been pretty close to Coker. Not sure yet about Josh Gross, but he wrote on Twitter that he was not called on during their media conference call.

Second, expect Zuffa-W"W"E-style matchmaking ASAP. Mousasi-Jardine is probabaly the first sign of that.

Third, here is a set of observations from Zeus on MiddleEasy.com about the Challengers show on Friday:


It appeared that ex-WEC president, Reed Harris, was running things last night. Perhaps not 'running things', but he was definitely calling some shots. Yes, Reed Harris is a shot caller. Clad in a nicely constructed suit, Reed Harris instructed a few people cageside and appeared to give a few photographers instructions just before the event.
Wicky Nishiura was at the event at it appears that he's going to be fighting in the US very soon.
UFC's Burt Watson handled the weigh-ins and was actively working during the event. In general, a lot of stuff seemed to be going on backstage.
Media access to the event was severely restricted, as evidenced by a ton of media outlets not receiving credentials.
Media that were allowed to attend the event needed a 'media escort' to wander around the arena.
Most of the Strikeforce employees seemed optimistic towards the entire ZUFFA purchase.
Maybe I'm completely oblivious to the emergence of technology, but Strikeforce seemed to be operating with a lot of new gadgets, including new camera equipment.
It was tough for everyone to score in-event interviews with fighters/personalities in the audience. Officials simply did not make it possible.
The Stockton Arena was flooded with security, and rightly so. They were in the 209. Within the first five minutes of entering Stockton I saw two guys scrapping over a domino game in a park just a few blocks from the arena.
If any of you have any doubts, Miesha Tate is a mega-star in MMA. Fan surrounded her like college students huddling over a breakfast burrito on a Friday night.


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That Helwani dude must be on the payroll of Zuffa.He no longer challenges UFC in their decision making,but the guy is probably just trying to save his job.If Dana banned him he would be out of a job for sure.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:12 PM   #20
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That Helwani dude must be on the payroll of Zuffa.He no longer challenges UFC in their decision making,but the guy is probably just trying to save his job.If Dana banned him he would be out of a job for sure.
He is definitely a Zombie now days.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:18 PM   #21
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That Helwani dude must be on the payroll of Zuffa.He no longer challenges UFC in their decision making,but the guy is probably just trying to save his job.If Dana banned him he would be out of a job for sure.
he use to be interesting but now he is just plain and boring
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damn if it turns out mcmahon was a share holder it wouldnt surprise me
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:58 PM   #23
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damn if it turns out mcmahon was a share holder it wouldnt surprise me
It would surprise me given that the WWE has to declare its business dealings to its stockholders (incidentally they did actually try to buy the UFC in 2004 and at one point expressed interest in Pride FC) and had a discussion with Shane McMahon in 2010.

Also I have to ask again - how is UFC horribly pro-wrestling but the independent Strikeforce wasn't? Legitimately don't understand this.
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:45 PM   #24
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This is why boxing is superior to mma in every way. No monopolies, no blacklist bullshit, and no emphasis on the dickhead promoter.
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:31 AM   #25
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You have to be ****ing kidding me...I yearn for the day boxing's promotional politics make half as much sense as MMA's.
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You have to be ****ing kidding me...I yearn for the day boxing's promotional politics make half as much sense as MMA's.

Boxing is international, MMA nowdays is filled with idiot Zuffa files who refer to the sport as "Ultimate ****en Fighting". This would be like some idiot calling boxing as "Top Rank".

Fighters in boxing actually have to prove that they are capable and experienced to be given the chance at glory. Imagine if a boxer won a world belt with a record of 3 wins and 1 loss with no previous amateur experience, this simply wouldn't happen in boxing but it does in MMA.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:40 AM   #27
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Boxing is international, MMA nowdays is filled with idiot Zuffa files who refer to the sport as "Ultimate ****en Fighting". This would be like some idiot calling boxing as "Top Rank".

Fighters in boxing actually have to prove that they are capable and experienced to be given the chance at glory. Imagine if a boxer won a world belt with a record of 3 wins and 1 loss with no previous amateur experience, this simply wouldn't happen in boxing but it does in MMA.
Ultimate Fighting is a goofy name which is why attempts to popularise its use failed but its no different to how the sport became to be known as MMA. You do know it was the UFC who decided that the sport would be called Mixed Martial Arts due to worrying that No Holds Barred was hurting its image amongst the commissions.

First of all Lesnar does have amateur experience - his amateur wrestling experience is just as relevant to MMA as amateur boxing is to professional boxing. Secondly his 2 UFC fights included one against a former world champion and one over a former world title challenger. You can find me a boxer who was thrown in at the deep end like that you may have a point. And that was an unique circumstance due to the problems with the belts caused by Couture's holdout - please point to another such example.

And I find it laughable that somebody can praise boxing given the nonsense that the sanctioning bodies generate. I mean just yesterday it was decided that Maidana would fight Morales for the 140Ibs WBA Interim Title - ignoring the facts that 1) the actual champ Khan is healthy and defending his belt 2) Maidana has only just dropped a previous interim title in an unification match with Khan 3) Morales has done nothing at the weight. I'm glad that at least with the UFC we have world titles that somewhat mean something in MMA.
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Ultimate Fighting is a goofy name which is why attempts to popularise its use failed but its no different to how the sport became to be known as MMA. You do know it was the UFC who decided that the sport would be called Mixed Martial Arts due to worrying that No Holds Barred was hurting its image amongst the commissions.
MMA has had many names. But they were never named after a promotion. I have no issues with the name Mixed Martial Arts afterall its what the sport is. I do have a problem with Zombies calling it "Ultimate Fighting".

Oh for the record stop trying to fool everyone and giving undeserved credit to UFC.

The name mixed martial arts was coined by Rick Blume, president and CEO of Battlecade, in 1995.

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First of all Lesnar does have amateur experience - his amateur wrestling experience is just as relevant to MMA as amateur boxing is to professional boxing. Secondly his 2 UFC fights included one against a former world champion and one over a former world title challenger. You can find me a boxer who was thrown in at the deep end like that you may have a point. And that was an unique circumstance due to the problems with the belts caused by Couture's holdout - please point to another such example.
A college background is laughable at best, thats not experience at all. Brock was either given an express ride to the belt because of his popularity or the UFC had garbage fighters. Brock lost against Mir in his UFC debut, won against a semi retired old way past his prime Herring, and won the belt from Old man Randy who was injured and had been out of the fight game for like a year. Again this is laughable. Other more deserving fighters were overlooked because they werent as popular and didnt bring in the $$$$$. Its simply pathetic really to have someone crowned a champion when that someone can hardly do submissions, doesnt really have a standup game, and for gods sake runs away from punches.

And I find it laughable that somebody can praise boxing given the nonsense that the sanctioning bodies generate. I mean just yesterday it was decided that Maidana would fight Morales for the 140Ibs WBA Interim Title - ignoring the facts that 1) the actual champ Khan is healthy and defending his belt 2) Maidana has only just dropped a previous interim title in an unification match with Khan 3) Morales has done nothing at the weight. I'm glad that at least with the UFC we have world titles that somewhat mean something in MMA.[/quote]
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MMA has had many names. But they were never named after a promotion. I have no issues with the name Mixed Martial Arts afterall its what the sport is. I do have a problem with Zombies calling it "Ultimate Fighting".

Oh for the record stop trying to fool everyone and giving undeserved credit to UFC.

The name mixed martial arts was coined by Rick Blume, president and CEO of Battlecade, in 1995.

A college background is laughable at best, thats not experience at all. Brock was either given an express ride to the belt because of his popularity or the UFC had garbage fighters. Brock lost against Mir in his UFC debut, won against a semi retired old way past his prime Herring, and won the belt from Old man Randy who was injured and had been out of the fight game for like a year. Again this is laughable. Other more deserving fighters were overlooked because they werent as popular and didnt bring in the $$$$$. Its simply pathetic really to have someone crowned a champion when that someone can hardly do submissions, doesnt really have a standup game, and for gods sake runs away from punches.

And I find it laughable that somebody can praise boxing given the nonsense that the sanctioning bodies generate. I mean just yesterday it was decided that Maidana would fight Morales for the 140Ibs WBA Interim Title - ignoring the facts that 1) the actual champ Khan is healthy and defending his belt 2) Maidana has only just dropped a previous interim title in an unification match with Khan 3) Morales has done nothing at the weight. I'm glad that at least with the UFC we have world titles that somewhat mean something in MMA.
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No. The phrase MMA was invented by Antonio Inoki in the 1970s and it was the UFC that got everybody to use this term for the sport. And who the **** refers to the sport as Ultimate Fighting in 2011? Not even Dana does that. Typical strawman argument from you.

And again no one can justify Lesnar getting a title shot on pure sporting grounds but the situation was a mess with the Couture holdout and interim champ Nog defending against Mir. But it was unique circumstance given how messed up the heavyweight division was and how popular Lesnar was. Again please give me another example of a similar bad title shot otherwise I think we can safely dismiss it as something done due to exceptional circumstances.

I notice you ignore my calling you out on your ridiculous praise for boxing.
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