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Old 04-12-2011, 07:10 PM   #1
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Default Thiago Alves and Miguel Torres , on the pre lims @UFC 130 ??!!

Here is the full card

Astonishing really !! ??

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)
  • Champ Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard (for lightweight title)
  • Matt Hamill vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
  • Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
  • Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
  • Jorge Santiago vs. Brian Stann
PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
  • Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
  • Brad Pickett vs. Miguel Torres
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:31 PM   #2
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It's good for the fans since they won't have to pay to watch those two guys fight. I don't see how it could hurt Alves and Torres since they are getting paid and will be on national tv. Perhaps the preliminary shows haven't been getting good tv ratings as of late. It makes sense to throw a few borderline stars into the lineup to boost the audience's interest level.
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Old 04-12-2011, 07:42 PM   #3
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Torres was very uninspiring in his last bout. He had Banuelos very obviously outmatched, but was content to sit back and use the jab to win, extremely frustrating fight from someone who should be one of the most exciting fighters in the division.

Kinda surprised Alves isn't on the main card. Granted, he looked shit against Fitch, but he looked ****ing amazing against Howard.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:31 PM   #4
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Torres was very uninspiring in his last bout. He had Banuelos very obviously outmatched, but was content to sit back and use the jab to win, extremely frustrating fight from someone who should be one of the most exciting fighters in the division.

Kinda surprised Alves isn't on the main card. Granted, he looked shit against Fitch, but he looked ****ing amazing against Howard.
Yea man totally torres is boring and needs to be cut! yea alves is in my opinion is good but is not really doing anything amazing atm compared to gsp, and diaz who are in my opinion the most entertaining and skilled fighters in the welterweight division and hopefully jake shields wins in ufc 129!!!!
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:49 PM   #5
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It's good for the fans since they won't have to pay to watch those two guys fight. I don't see how it could hurt Alves and Torres since they are getting paid and will be on national tv. Perhaps the preliminary shows haven't been getting good tv ratings as of late. It makes sense to throw a few borderline stars into the lineup to boost the audience's interest level.

also Alves looks the part and has a good highlight reel there probably hoping thatll boost the figures
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:09 AM   #6
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* Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
* Jorge Santiago vs. Brian Stann

Instead of............

* Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
* Brad Pickett vs. Miguel Torres

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Old 04-13-2011, 02:54 AM   #7
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The card is looking intriguing frmo top to bottom.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:07 AM   #8
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* Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
* Jorge Santiago vs. Brian Stann

Instead of............

* Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
* Brad Pickett vs. Miguel Torres

Why?
My thoughts exactly !! ............
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:31 AM   #9
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torres i can understand but not alves who is top in the WW division
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:20 AM   #10
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Torres was very uninspiring in his last bout. He had Banuelos very obviously outmatched, but was content to sit back and use the jab to win, extremely frustrating fight from someone who should be one of the most exciting fighters in the division.

Kinda surprised Alves isn't on the main card. Granted, he looked shit against Fitch, but he looked ****ing amazing against Howard.
Thiago alves did not look like shit against Fitch !!!

He was outgrappled in that fight , and judging by the fighters body language's at the end of the fight , had it been a 5 round fight i think Fitch would of been caught with something along the way in the stand up exchanges , Alves looked energetic , Fitch seemed happy to hear the final bell .

Alves is a top 3 WW in the world and a P4P entry , this is embarassing for him not be on the PPV card , even though his opponent is B level

As for Torres , this is a man who 15 months ago people thought was the #1 P4P fighter in the world , or ............... one of the top P4P fighters in the world , he is now fighting a more strategic fighting utilising his skills to make sure he gets the W , this is after years of entertaining fights in the lower divisions where Torres has flew caution to the wind for a long long time . And he's fighting Pickett a man who likes a good scrap too !!

His last fight was a technical masterclass , and how Stefan Struve , Santiago or Stann can be shown before him is way beyond me

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Old 04-13-2011, 12:48 PM   #11
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It's good exposure to get better fights on free TV.
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Old 04-13-2011, 02:30 PM   #12
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Here is the full card

Astonishing really !! ??


MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)
  • Champ Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard (for lightweight title)
  • Matt Hamill vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
  • Frank Mir vs. Roy Nelson
  • Travis Browne vs. Stefan Struve
  • Jorge Santiago vs. Brian Stann
PRELIMINARY CARD (Spike TV)
  • Thiago Alves vs. Rick Story
  • Brad Pickett vs. Miguel Torres
Brown/Struve/Santiago and Stann...Go to the prelims. Bring Alves and Torres to the Main Card. WTF!
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:00 PM   #13
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Brown/Struve/Santiago and Stann...Go to the prelims. Bring Alves and Torres to the Main Card. WTF!
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Thiago alves did not look like shit against Fitch !!!

He was outgrappled in that fight , and judging by the fighters body language's at the end of the fight , had it been a 5 round fight i think Fitch would of been caught with something along the way in the stand up exchanges , Alves looked energetic , Fitch seemed happy to hear the final bell .
I'm a massive Alves fan, but he looked ****ing terrible in the Fitch fight. He cut waaayy too much weight and he looked drained and shit. He looked slow and sloppy and crap. He started coming back in the third round, I dare say only because he knew he was losing and he dug as deep as he could. He had nothing in that fight, he looked worn out just from his entrance (during which, there wasn't a drop of sweat on his body, I might add)
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:47 PM   #15
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torres aint boring! and Brad Pickett is probably going to be one of the most entertaining ufc fighters. this has fight of the night and submission of the night written all over it
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