90's Heavyweights - Page 3

fists of fury · 07-06-2007, 03:12 AM

Why do pro cyclists take steroids if it doesn't boost endurance?

fists of fury · 07-06-2007, 03:22 AM

Senya, use your common sense.
How does a guy go from 175 to 193 without any apparent speed loss, and carrying not an ounce of extra bodyfat? Jones started his career as a jnr. Middleweight for heaven's sake. That's 154 lbs.
Okay, perhapes he was still growing a bit. He probably matured at around 160 or so.
Now, he puts on an extra 33 lbs. of pure muscle with no speed or stamina loss. If Jones had gotten to 193 looking decidedly fleshier and carrying some extra muscle I could believe he had bulked up by using weights alone.
But that super ripped, muscular phenom that fought Ruiz? Nah, sorry. His walk around weight must have been close to 215 lbs.

Senya13 · 07-06-2007, 03:29 AM

Who is talking about John Ruiz fight? The positive test A happened in May 2000, after RJJ - Richard Hall fight. Jones never tested positive for any banned substances before or after this fight, including the John Ruiz fight. How did he get to 193? The answer is [URL=***********.mackieshilstone.com/]on this site[/URL].

fists of fury · 07-06-2007, 03:38 AM

What are your thoughts about the Ruiz fight? Was Jones clean or not?

Senya13 · 07-06-2007, 03:59 AM

Mackie Shilstone is too well-known figure (since 1980s when he helped Michael Spinks win the title from Holmes) to use banned substances without anyone learning about it.

ChrisPontius · 07-06-2007, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Senya13

I posted average height and weight of heavyweights by decade, according to boxrec data. Do you want to say that almost every heavyweight that is listed in boxrec database in the 1990's has been using them?

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Originally Posted by ChrisPontius

Interesting, do you have a link to that?

Well?

Senya13 · 07-06-2007, 05:05 AM

Later today. My notes archive is at home, I'm at work now.

Senya13 · 07-06-2007, 05:13 AM

Hmm, actually found it again on the forum where it was originally posted. But it's in kilograms and centimeters, not pounds and inches, sorry.

Average weight of all heavyweights (kg)
1880-1899 - 81,3
1900-1919 - 84,57
1920-1939 - 84,80
1940-1959 - 85,72
1960-1979 - 88,78
1980-1999 - 96,42
2000-2005 - 101,62

Average weight of all heavyweights, 5-years periods (kg)
1961-1965 87,10
1966-1970 88,87
1971-1975 90,47
1976-1980 92,19
1981-1985 91,89
1986-1990 94,23
1991-1995 97,32
1996-2000 100,62
2001-2005 101,91

Average height of all heavyweights (cm)
1880-1899 - 177
1900-1919 - 178
1920-1939 - 179
1940-1959 - 180
1960-1979 - 181
1980-1999 - 184
2000-2005 - 188

Average height of all heavyweights, 5-years periods (cm)
1961-1965 181
1966-1970 181
1971-1975 181
1976-1980 181
1981-1985 182
1986-1990 183
1991-1995 185
1996-2000 187
2001-2005 188

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07-06-2007, 03:22 AM	#32
fists of fury Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: March for Revenge Posts: 4,673 vCash: 1325	Re: 90's Heavyweights Senya, use your common sense. How does a guy go from 175 to 193 without any apparent speed loss, and carrying not an ounce of extra bodyfat? Jones started his career as a jnr. Middleweight for heaven's sake. That's 154 lbs. Okay, perhapes he was still growing a bit. He probably matured at around 160 or so. Now, he puts on an extra 33 lbs. of pure muscle with no speed or stamina loss. If Jones had gotten to 193 looking decidedly fleshier and carrying some extra muscle I could believe he had bulked up by using weights alone. But that super ripped, muscular phenom that fought Ruiz? Nah, sorry. His walk around weight must have been close to 215 lbs.
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07-06-2007, 03:29 AM	#33
Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,335 vCash: 1210	Re: 90's Heavyweights Who is talking about John Ruiz fight? The positive test A happened in May 2000, after RJJ - Richard Hall fight. Jones never tested positive for any banned substances before or after this fight, including the John Ruiz fight. How did he get to 193? The answer is [URL=***********.mackieshilstone.com/]on this site[/URL].
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07-06-2007, 03:38 AM	#34
fists of fury Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: March for Revenge Posts: 4,673 vCash: 1325	Re: 90's Heavyweights What are your thoughts about the Ruiz fight? Was Jones clean or not?
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07-06-2007, 03:59 AM	#35
Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,335 vCash: 1210	Re: 90's Heavyweights Mackie Shilstone is too well-known figure (since 1980s when he helped Michael Spinks win the title from Holmes) to use banned substances without anyone learning about it.
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07-06-2007, 05:05 AM	#37
Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,335 vCash: 1210	Re: 90's Heavyweights Later today. My notes archive is at home, I'm at work now.
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07-06-2007, 05:13 AM	#38
Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,335 vCash: 1210	Re: 90's Heavyweights Hmm, actually found it again on the forum where it was originally posted. But it's in kilograms and centimeters, not pounds and inches, sorry. Average weight of all heavyweights (kg) 1880-1899 - 81,3 1900-1919 - 84,57 1920-1939 - 84,80 1940-1959 - 85,72 1960-1979 - 88,78 1980-1999 - 96,42 2000-2005 - 101,62 Average weight of all heavyweights, 5-years periods (kg) 1961-1965 87,10 1966-1970 88,87 1971-1975 90,47 1976-1980 92,19 1981-1985 91,89 1986-1990 94,23 1991-1995 97,32 1996-2000 100,62 2001-2005 101,91 Average height of all heavyweights (cm) 1880-1899 - 177 1900-1919 - 178 1920-1939 - 179 1940-1959 - 180 1960-1979 - 181 1980-1999 - 184 2000-2005 - 188 Average height of all heavyweights, 5-years periods (cm) 1961-1965 181 1966-1970 181 1971-1975 181 1976-1980 181 1981-1985 182 1986-1990 183 1991-1995 185 1996-2000 187 2001-2005 188
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