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Old 05-13-2011, 02:50 PM   #31
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I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed"
If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin.

I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:59 PM   #32
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I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed"
If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin.

I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.
in terms of accomplishment JDS has done more than carwin therefore JDS is more proven than carwin.

both beat gonzaga
JDS beat:
Roy nelson
Cropcop (even tho he is shot)
Werdum who was a top contender atm and still is

JDS has 2 KO of the night while carwin has only 1
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:36 PM   #33
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Good news. There are going to be fireworks
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:45 PM   #34
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in terms of accomplishment JDS has done more than carwin therefore JDS is more proven than carwin.

both beat gonzaga
JDS beat:
Roy nelson
Cropcop (even tho he is shot)
Werdum who was a top contender atm and still is

JDS has 2 KO of the night while carwin has only 1
Google search ftw!
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:19 PM   #35
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I feel sorry for Brock (even though he's been a dick in the past at times). I also feel sorry for the guys who say UFC HW's are the best currently....Cuz they use JDS and Cain as reasoning as why it's the best. JDS gets knocked out (by the guy who was beaten by Brock) and everyone will say "he wasn't proven," & "who did he fight?" & "overraed"
If Fedor can dominate heavies for 10 years without a loss, loses one fight and people ask these questions then JDS will get crapped on after he loses to "No gas tank" Carwin.

I do like SF heavies a lot more, but I disagree with all that. Carwin has to be one of the biggest punchers in the history of MMA seriously, and that's why he's knocking JDS out. JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance (as tons of people on this very forum argue, and I can't understand how beating Nelson & old Nog make this argument). If JDS wins though, and survives Carwin then I'd give him some props for this fight.
**** BRO PROPS thats exactly how i feel in my opinion the best hws in order are
1) Overeem
2) Velasquez
3) Carwin
4) Jds
5) Brock
i believe also that carwin will knock jds out but carwin vs overeem is what i wanna see its will be the battle of "THE ENGINEER'S AWESOME 5XL GLOVE SUPER PUNCHES VS THE UBERKNEE'S OF THE DEMOLITION MAN OVEREEM!!
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:44 PM   #36
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JDS is great though, but isn't all that proven IMO to merit him better Overeem for instance
Overeem has done **** all at HW in MMA.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:49 PM   #37
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Overeem has done **** all at HW in MMA.
dude your acting like a zuffa zombie he's k1 champ which you can infer to him as having ****ing amazing striking for mma and is the dream champ bet old bum ass todd duffee and is strikeforce champ. Just wait till he wins the hw grand prix, overeem is a roided up cunt who has amazing one punch, knee k.o.'s so if you can name one other fighter who has accomplished more than 3 belts in different orgs and is mma name them.
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dude your acting like a zuffa zombie he's k1 champ which you can infer to him as having ****ing amazing striking for mma and is the dream champ bet old bum ass todd duffee and is strikeforce champ. Just wait till he wins the hw grand prix, overeem is a roided up cunt who has amazing one punch, knee k.o.'s so if you can name one other fighter who has accomplished more than 3 belts in different orgs and is mma name them.
If you count a UFC Tourney belt then Dan Henderson's. Overeems belts in MMA mean **** all
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:09 PM   #39
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Great fight. I pick JDS because he can move, but this is a great fight and I can see it going either way.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:27 PM   #40
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If you count a UFC Tourney belt then Dan Henderson's. Overeems belts in MMA mean **** all
hmm true but i think overeem would dispose most of the hw's in UFC the exceptions are
1) velasquez
2) Carwin
In my opinion overeem would destroy jds
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Old 05-14-2011, 04:26 AM   #41
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hmm true but i think overeem would dispose most of the hw's in UFC the exceptions are
1) velasquez
2) Carwin
In my opinion overeem would destroy jds



Overeem would destroy anyone in MMA. JDS or Cain gives him the hardest fight, but he still makes short work of either. He's going to dominate like Anderson

edit - Barnett Overeem will be interesting
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:26 PM   #42
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Overeem would destroy anyone in MMA. JDS or Cain gives him the hardest fight, but he still makes short work of either. He's going to dominate like Anderson

edit - Barnett Overeem will be interesting
hahah yea it will be the battle of the roid users.
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:41 PM   #43
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dude your acting like a zuffa zombie he's k1 champ which you can infer to him as having ****ing amazing striking for mma and is the dream champ bet old bum ass todd duffee and is strikeforce champ. Just wait till he wins the hw grand prix, overeem is a roided up cunt who has amazing one punch, knee k.o.'s so if you can name one other fighter who has accomplished more than 3 belts in different orgs and is mma name them.
Who did he beat for the strikforce belt? Paul Buentello. And how many times has he defended in the past 4 years? Once. Against Brett Rogers. And he beat Todd Duffee for his Dream belt. Wow.
Every person he's beaten at heavy weight, except two has either been in the middle of a massive losing streak, or retired soon after or both.

K-1 is not MMA, Overeem may well take out the whole grand prix, and after that I'll change my tune, but until then he has done **** all at HW in MMA.
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:25 PM   #44
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Who did he beat for the strikforce belt? Paul Buentello. And how many times has he defended in the past 4 years? Once. Against Brett Rogers. And he beat Todd Duffee for his Dream belt. Wow.
Every person he's beaten at heavy weight, except two has either been in the middle of a massive losing streak, or retired soon after or both.

K-1 is not MMA, Overeem may well take out the whole grand prix, and after that I'll change my tune, but until then he has done **** all at HW in MMA.
hahaha just and wait and see overeem will clean the hw grand prix out easy.
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Old 05-14-2011, 11:00 PM   #45
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Maybe. He has already lost to Werdum, and is 1-1 to Sergei (his last loss).
If he does take out the GP then he certainly has a case as the #1 heavy weight, but until then he's no where near it.
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